what the hell is goin on with my normal female

I know the shedding signs, she's a 8 year old first time breeding normal. her eyes aren't blue and shes been pink for about 4 days. what could this be? recently switched to a rack from a terrarium to house my pastel and female and potential offspring. just wondering what you guys think is going on. oh and the scar on her belly is from a rat foot during feeding, happened years ago. http://184.72.239.143/mu/a6890e4f-a23a-2caf.jpghttp://184.72.239.143/mu/a6890e4f-a250-6b1b.jpghttp://184.72.239.143/mu/a6890e4f-a261-e631.jpghttp://184.72.239.143/mu/a6890e4f-a275-48b7.jpg

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Verify temps aren't too high, also did you change the substrate? Other than that she could be about to shed, sometimes they will stay pink and the eyes will go back to normal looking a few days before they shed.

yeah I have an accurite probe on hot side floor at 91. cold side 79. and most of the time she's half and half most on the cool side building. yes recently went from coco husk to paper towels.


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Hmm, sounds like everything is right.. I'm betting she'll shed in the next few days.. either way keep an eye on her but I don't think there is anything to panic over..

I hope so. she is getting some serious follicle growth. im thinking an ovulation is not that far off. ;) I'll give it a week, I put some extra sheets of pt in there for her


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is putting the probe directly on the heat tape to measure temperature accurate?



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is putting the probe directly on the heat tape to measure temperature accurate?



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Mmm... I would say it'd be best to put the probe under the substrate but inside the enclosure to be seeing exactly what your snake could be getting at if she ever were to figure out how to get under the paper towels.

People say to put the thermostat probe directly on the heat source, which is correct, but you won't get any valuable information from having the thermometer probe on the heat source directly.

my Tstat was set to 89 and it read 93 on the floor, on the heat tape it read that it went from 80-102 every time it cycled. herpstat here I come?


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Thermostat probe should be on the heat tape. Thermometer can be inside, or use a temp gun to get temps in the tub.

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Thermostat probe should be on the heat tape. Thermometer can be inside, or use a temp gun to get temps in the tub.

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yeah ordering a temp gun to my purchase tonight, should I invest in a herpstat as well? the zilla Tstat is an on/off and it looks like it's causing problems.


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How many tubs/drawers do you have? If more than 1 or 2 I'd say get something more reliable. Also heat tape can get hot so it's always recommend to have a good thermo and a seconds as a back up..

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yeah ordering a temp gun to my purchase tonight, should I invest in a herpstat as well? the zilla Tstat is an on/off and it looks like it's causing problems.


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Temp guns will make your life sooo much easier it's not even funny! I don't know how I lived without one before.

I'm a big fan of herpstat, because it is proportional so it's a lot easier on your heating source than an on/off one and I find it's more accurate, plus it lets you see exactly what temp it's at and what it's doing at any time.

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Temp guns will make your life sooo much easier it's not even funny! I don't know how I lived without one before.

I'm a big fan of herpstat, because it is proportional so it's a lot easier on your heating source than an on/off one and I find it's more accurate, plus it lets you see exactly what temp it's at and what it's doing at any time.

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that's exactly what I'm feelin. glad you guys were on to figure this out with me haha. I'm gonna get a herpstat and the gun, and a humidifier. good lord.


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How many tubs/drawers do you have? If more than 1 or 2 I'd say get something more reliable. Also heat tape can get hot so it's always recommend to have a good thermo and a seconds as a back up..

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I have a 5 drawer adult rack that uses that Tstat so I'm definitely gonna buy a herpstat for that rack as well as my hatchling rack. if she doesn't shed in a week then im gonna get her checked out.


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I hope so. she is getting some serious follicle growth. im thinking an ovulation is not that far off. ;) I'll give it a week, I put some extra sheets of pt in there for her


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I'm not a breeder, but isn't there supposed to be a pre-ovulation shed?

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I'm not a breeder, but isn't there supposed to be a pre-ovulation shed?

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they will typically shed before they ovulate but you really can't go by it or say she will ovy in x days after shed like you can with the post ovy shed.


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alright so here is my findings and what i did about it. after watching the tstat for about an hour or so i found that even when set at 82 for the hot side it will go down to 82 but shoot up to 103 then back down again which is completely unreasonable. the probe was placed directly on my flexwat and the temps were shown accordingly. i knew the floor of the sterilite was around 94 when the tstat would click on and now i know the actual temp was well over 100. this explains why she would have red lines on her belly from the paper towel being crunched up and it being so hot it left impressions on her and my male pastel. this tstat was a gift so im just gonna cut my losses.

Tonight i spent $247 of holiday bonus money and got a herpstat for the adult rack and will buy one for hatchling as well when the time comes. also bought a temp gun for easier temps and accuracy. last but not least im going to give the thinkgeek, reptile pro, accutemp,exo terrra incubator a try, they are all the same thing. im going to build a gutted fridge incubator next season for my multiple pairs, this season im just going to use the mini fridge.figure since im getting it now ill be able to tweak it to exactly what i need by the time eggs come around. it will be good to have as well because who knows what other reptile eggs i may want to incubate....hmmm i could see beardies down the line ;)

sorry for the novellll

Just about to go into shed. My bp's going through the exact same thing. Give her a couple of days and her eyes should cloud up and she will shed. :gj:

Well if your other pythons are red as well it's prob the heat. Unless they are all shedding at the same time (unlikely but possible depending on how many). I think your on the right track getting a proportional thermo.

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Well if your other pythons are red as well it's prob the heat. Unless they are all shedding at the same time (unlikely but possible depending on how many). I think your on the right track getting a proportional thermo.

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yeah. I have her and an 05 male pastel. he had some red lines every so often and now I realize it's from the paper towel scrunched up leaving impressions. I'm pretty appalled that this Tstat is on the market tbh. it was a gift so I just decided to cut my losses and buy a herpstat. I won't think twice before buying another one for my hatchling rack when that time comes. I'm just glad I caught this and you guys were able to help me through it. I want the first year breeding to be as smooth as possible and a reliable Tstat where its at.
I have it set at 82 just so when it spikes up it doesnt go past 93. so dumb.

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Just about to go into shed. My bp's going through the exact same thing. Give her a couple of days and her eyes should cloud up and she will shed. :gj:

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I'm hoping she is just in shed, she's been pink for about 5 days with no cloudy eyes seen yet. she would be due for a shed sometime in the near future though as she is building for the ovulation. we'll see


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I'm hoping she is just in shed, she's been pink for about 5 days with no cloudy eyes seen yet. she would be due for a shed sometime in the near future though as she is building for the ovulation. we'll see


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I've heard of them staying pink for quite a few days, but it could also be that you just missed her eyes clouding up, too.

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I've heard of them staying pink for quite a few days, but it could also be that you just missed her eyes clouding up, too.

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it's possible but I only have the two bp's and so I check them at least twice a day lol. I'm a little anal when it comes to my snake room.


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I've heard of them staying pink for quite a few days, but it could also be that you just missed her eyes clouding up, too.

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herpstat came in today and I love it! took just a little under an hour and the temps are perfect. have the tstat set to 91 and it's giving me around 93 in the tub but that could change when the temp gun comes in because I'm doubting the accurites probe at the moment lol. but I'm a very satisfied customer. oh and Alexandra just an update on my normal, she was just staying pink for awhile, her eyes have been blue for the past few days so she should shed this weekend. I'm excited because this will be her first shed in the new rack and set up andddddd it's her last shed before she ovulates as far as I can tell so fingers crossed. thanks again everyone for your help!


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herpstat came in today and I love it! took just a little under an hour and the temps are perfect. have the tstat set to 91 and it's giving me around 93 in the tub but that could change when the temp gun comes in because I'm doubting the accurites probe at the moment lol. but I'm a very satisfied customer. oh and Alexandra just an update on my normal, she was just staying pink for awhile, her eyes have been blue for the past few days so she should shed this weekend. I'm excited because this will be her first shed in the new rack and set up andddddd it's her last shed before she ovulates as far as I can tell so fingers crossed. thanks again everyone for your help!


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Awesome, good to hear that things are going well, and good luck with her! I've got my fingers crossed for you too.

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Awesome, good to hear that things are going well, and good luck with her! I've got my fingers crossed for you too.

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thank you! :)


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