Super Black Pastel vs. Albino BEL project?

As you may or may not know, I've been planning on getting a new pair of balls this spring when the weather warms up so I can grow them up and start breeding.

Originally I wanted to go down the albino BEL road, because they're just so freakin awesome. However, in the light of the fact that that's a very long project, I was thinking of getting a pair of black pastels instead of lessers and start a super black pastel project instead, because it's much shorter. I like both equally and I can't choose!

Oh, I love the charcoal black supers, and there just aren't very many for sale. But I think you win either way...

Both are nice! I voted albino bel. My plans include Albino Ivories soon. :D

I voted super black pastel.. I have a similar project going on soon. I have a 1.500 gram Cinnamon female, but my Cinnamon male is only 300 gram, but I'll guess he'll be ready for spring.. So he can make me a nice Super Cinni :)

Albino Super Black Pastel. :gj:

I would go super black.... the other just seems like a really long path to an all white snake...... its cool just dont see the point...

The super black pastel albino would be cool.. ALOT of black to get rid of witht he albino gene!

I say SBP, thats one Iam working on.

have you checked out wfreptiles cherry bomb?

its an albino super mojave!
its sick!
i think that will sell you on the albino BEL.

but i love black pastels so .. its really up to you.. .

you can checkout allexoticsreptiles.com or WFreptiles.com or youtube for the cherry bomb BEL.

good luck!

yes recessive stuff takes longer but to me it definatly pays off in the end!

I recently realized that I can get a similar looking snake to the albino BEL (all white, red eyes) with an albino super black pastel. They were really bad pics, but has anyone seen one in person?

Because if I can get an all black snake and an all white snake with red eyes with fewer snakes that would defs be better.

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Originally Posted by lexxielightning

I recently realized that I can get a similar looking snake to the albino BEL (all white, red eyes) with an albino super black pastel. They were really bad pics, but has anyone seen one in person?

Because if I can get an all black snake and an all white snake with red eyes with fewer snakes that would defs be better.

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You wont be using fewer snakes.

BEL = Mojave x Mojave (Or what ever snakes you are using to create the BEL)
Super Blk Pastel = Blk Pastel x Blk Pastel

Then add the albino gene into either of those. Neither process is longer or shorter, and both are amazing snakes.

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Originally Posted by LP.

You wont be using fewer snakes.

BEL = Mojave x Mojave (Or what ever snakes you are using to create the BEL)
Super Blk Pastel = Blk Pastel x Blk Pastel

Then add the albino gene into either of those. Neither process is longer or shorter, and both are amazing snakes.

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What I meant was I would be able to produce both all black snakes and all white snakes with fewer snakes, because I could do:

Black pastel x black pastel = Super Black pastels (among others)
then I could add albino and make all white snakes with red eyes by doing a similar thing to what I would have done with lessers/butters/mojaves/whatever but with snakes of the same line, so I don't have to go and get both lessers or whatever and black pastels to get both black snakes and snakes with red eyes and white skin.

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Originally Posted by lexxielightning

What I meant was I would be able to produce both all black snakes and all white snakes with fewer snakes, because I could do:

Black pastel x black pastel = Super Black pastels (among others)
then I could add albino and make all white snakes with red eyes by doing a similar thing to what I would have done with lessers/butters/mojaves/whatever but with snakes of the same line, so I don't have to go and get both lessers or whatever and black pastels to get both black snakes and snakes with red eyes and white skin.

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Oh I get what you mean now. Dont let that discourage your Albino BEL project though. The Albino BEL I saw had a faint pinkish pattern and looked amazing. A Super Blk Pastel Albino is just pure white with red eyes.

I am playing around working toward the Super Black Albino -- discovered that my Silver Streak breeder male is Het Albino. :O:confused:

All the Black Pastel Albino stuff along the way will be great while working toward the super -- a nice bonus!!! Good luck!

I like the albino blue eyed leucistic myself, I found that video on the cherry bomb. Not sure I'm wild about that name but the snake is really nice. The pink highlights are pretty cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie3mUah0z3Q

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I like the albino blue eyed leucistic myself, I found that video on the cherry bomb. Not sure I'm wild about that name but the snake is really nice. The pink highlights are pretty cool

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i've seen the cherry bomb cuz i live really close to WF but trust me! theres more to meet the eye on that ball!

its got a purpleness coming in, a crazy white white white! pattern on the side thats super faded, and a solid but very faded(still noticable in person) yellow line down its spine!

its sick trust!

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Originally Posted by LP.

Albino Super Black Pastel. :gj:

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i 2nd that