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  • 11-07-2010, 07:57 PM
    shelliebear
    I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    ...he has a puncture in his eye. I think the stupid rat bit his eye after all. :(
    It almost looked like shattered glass, and in the middle there is a definite puncture mark.
    I don't know how deep it goes, but it looks like it went through more than just the eye cap. I think I might take him to the vet.
    Does this sound like a good idea? Can they do anything for him?
    I just want him to be ok. :(
    My poor baby :tears::tears::tears:
  • 11-07-2010, 07:58 PM
    shelliebear
    ....trying to get pics, he won't hold still, my camera probably can't focus on it anyway. we'll see...:9
  • 11-07-2010, 07:58 PM
    shelliebear
    and i'm sorry for spamming the boards with all of this. :(
  • 11-07-2010, 08:03 PM
    sookieball
    omg im so sorry!!! yeah vet good. even if he cant really do anything for him, at least he can give him some anti-biotics to keep from infection.

    now im sorry, but pics would be helpful.
  • 11-07-2010, 08:33 PM
    steveboos
    Yeah i have seen this happen, there is also a thread somewhere on here about the healing process of it and had pictures, but i can't seem to find it. A vet check would be helpful, but most of the time, shedding over 6-10 months is the best medication for a injury on the eye or skin.
  • 11-07-2010, 08:36 PM
    Shadera
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    It's always a good idea for something like that to be checked by a competent veterinarian. There may be infection brewing, or anything else lurking there. Forums are a great source of advice but when it comes right down to it - vet vet vet.

    No excuses. Go.
  • 11-07-2010, 08:46 PM
    shelliebear
  • 11-07-2010, 08:48 PM
    shelliebear
    posted photos. bite on his head looks alright, still red, not so swollen. The eye looks ok other than the hole but I'm not vet. I guess I'll look online for vets and see who, if anyone, is good with treating snakes. :(
  • 11-07-2010, 08:58 PM
    Freakie_frog
    I had this happen a few years ago. Physically there is nothing the vet will be able to do. You might get an injection to prevent infection but that's about it. But yes you should take your snake to the vet


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  • 11-07-2010, 09:05 PM
    shelliebear
    Should I make an emergency appointment or just a regular one? I think they charge more for emergency ones (not fair!) >:/
    I might have to wait til tomorrow morning. I don't know if anywhere is open unless I need to make an emergency one--do you think I should? I definitely can, but don't want to unless I have to.
    my poor baby snake! :( :(
    thank you so much everyone for all the wonderful replies.
  • 11-07-2010, 09:53 PM
    coldblooded
    I rescued a snake that had a severe eye injury (among other things). It was from a rat attack.

    I'll let the pictures speak for themselves:

    When I first took her in:
    http://www.thelogicalchange.com/rept...nasaIntake.jpg

    After removing the stuck shed (notice the eye):
    http://www.thelogicalchange.com/rept...asaIntake2.jpg

    After about a month of healing (the brown thing on her eye had been a scab of some sort. Notice how there is a dent in her eye where it had been pierce by the rat's teeth.)
    http://www.thelogicalchange.com/rept...asaBetter2.jpg

    And this is her the other day (that's her bad eye!):
    http://www.thelogicalchange.com/reptiles/manasaOct.jpg

    The day after I took her in, I took her to the vet. He couldn't do anything for her eye or for the wounds on her head. All he could do was prescribe antibiotics for her respiratory infection (she was a mess).

    So they can bounce back from an eye injury, even a severe one. I would say it took Manasa's eye five months to heal completely.

    Good luck.
  • 11-08-2010, 12:02 PM
    shelliebear
    Great. There's only ONE vet in all of Spokane and Spokane valley that sees snakes (Despite the 3 websites that listed "reptiles" on their website...when I called they informed me they DON'T see pythons). The reptile doc is only in on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
    I guess I'll keep an eye on him since it's not like I can do anything, and if he gets worse make an appointment? ....I hate Spokane.:rolleyes:
  • 11-08-2010, 07:39 PM
    angllady2
    Aww, poor baby and poor you!

    I know you feel just awful about this, but as the above pictures show, they can heal from some pretty severe damage.

    I would keep a very close eye on him, but I don't think it's necessary to make an emergency visit. Make a standard appointment, but it's possible by then he may not even look like he needs the vet.

    Gale
  • 11-08-2010, 07:44 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    You already know this, but you need to get her to a vet.

    If the living spectacle has not been breached and there is no trauma to the conjunctiva of the eye. she probably stands a decent chance. Getting antibiotic eye drops and artificial tears from the vet would probably be a good precaution at the very least.

    However, if the conjunctiva becomes infected, or if the living spectacle has been punctured, emergency veterinary attention is required.

    Either way, a vet visit is in order to properly assess the situation and decide on a course of treatment.
  • 11-08-2010, 07:49 PM
    KingPythons
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    Nergal is a OG Ganster all the way!
  • 11-08-2010, 08:38 PM
    shelliebear
    :D i think I will call tomorrow and make him a standard appointment then.
    is there anything I can look for, like, signs of infection of the conjunctiva?
    I know so much about human infections but not much about animals. I'd love to learn.
    Skip: advice?
  • 11-08-2010, 08:46 PM
    kitedemon
    Skip is right a vet trip is likely a great idea I don't know for sure but a trip in the morning will likely do no more harm, (guess here) keep it clean (if you have a particle substrate) replace it and use paper in case, adding dust and junk into it will not help at all.

    coldblooded wow that is amazing and scary and well good job on the rescue. I have 3 rescued balls with me at the moment but they are in way better shape that your one! :O Interesting one has a missing eye (birth defect) and she is doing just fine with out it.

    shelliebear good luck it will work out don't worry too much!
  • 11-08-2010, 09:33 PM
    shelliebear
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    Nergal is a OG Ganster all the way!

    what's an OG gangster? :D :D :D
  • 11-08-2010, 10:01 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shelliebear View Post
    :D i think I will call tomorrow and make him a standard appointment then.
    is there anything I can look for, like, signs of infection of the conjunctiva?
    I know so much about human infections but not much about animals. I'd love to learn.
    Skip: advice?


    Last year, one of my thrasops had a retained spectacle. She's old and I figured she would be okay until the next shed.

    Here's the thing - thrasops have huge eyes, are smart and are very visually oriented. We were in Disneyland and our pet sitter called to inform me she was rubbing the heck on everything in her cage trying to get the spectacle off.

    The sitter calls us the next day to tell us she rubbed her eye and apparently got the spectacle off on a branch in her enclosure. Problem was she punctured the living spectacle beneath it and lacerated the conjunctiva of her eye.

    Our vet was out at the house less than two hours later and by then the eye was swelling up. They did emergency surgery and fenestrated the eye. $650.00 later I have a 13 year old snake with one eye.

    This was with her eye packed with antibiotic ocular ointment, and almost around the clock changing of her dressings - the whole nine yards.

    Point is you don't mess around with the eyes. Any trauma to them needs to be dealt with immediately and by a professional - none of this home spun "just turn up the heat and put her on paper towels" BS.

    My snake was treated almost immediately after trauma and still lost her eye. While your snake may have not had a breach on the spectacle, it's a rodent bite and highly susceptible to infection. Get her to a vet, get her properly diagnosed and get her professionally treated.
  • 11-08-2010, 10:27 PM
    shelliebear
    Thanks skip. :gj:
    Will do.
  • 11-09-2010, 11:08 PM
    KingPythons
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shelliebear View Post
    what's an OG gangster? :D :D :D

    Its the reason why other ball pythons fear him :P
    Original Ganster
  • 11-10-2010, 01:54 PM
    shelliebear
    hahaha. he is indeed.
    It's also the reason my sister fears him (he bit her) XD
    he's B.A. all the way. ;)
  • 11-10-2010, 07:36 PM
    shelliebear
    Made an appointment with the vet, it's at 2:00 tomorrow (Thursday). They said they might have to keep him and work on him :tears::tears:
    I'm so anxious. My poor nergal. :(
    What would they do, if they had to keep him?
  • 11-11-2010, 09:43 AM
    Skiploder
    Re: I think I'm taking Nergal to the vet. Bitten eye
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shelliebear View Post
    Made an appointment with the vet, it's at 2:00 tomorrow (Thursday). They said they might have to keep him and work on him :tears::tears:
    I'm so anxious. My poor nergal. :(
    What would they do, if they had to keep him?

    Depends on what they find.

    If they think he has a breach in the lens, they will most likely put him under to clean and check the eye.
  • 11-11-2010, 10:42 AM
    zina10
    Good luck, hopefully things will turn out ok !!
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