What's a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe called?

Quick question, what's a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe called?

I thought I was a Killer Blast but then I realized a Killer Blast is a Super Pastel Pin.

So what would a Super Pastel X Spider X Pin be called? A Super Spinner? Killer Spinner? Super Spinner Blast maybe?

Killer Spin is always what I've called them..

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Killer Spin is always what I've called them..

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Killer Spin, I like the sound of that:D

I like the name Killer Spin also, sounds cool too.

Well the pastelXspiderxPin is a Spinner Blast, and when a super pastel is tied into combos 'killer' is usually put on there somewhere(killerblast killerbee etc) So I think killer spinner is possibly right...plus it sounds cool!! haha

Powers

kill spin

I thought they would be referred to as super spinner blasts, but killer spin sounds pretty good too.

Its called a Killer Blast

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Originally Posted by Burm Ball

Its called a Killer Blast

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Killer blast is with out spider. Killer spin or kill spin is what I've always heard and called them.

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Originally Posted by Burm Ball

Its called a Killer Blast

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I agree with "Killerblast" and here's why.
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

I thought it was super spinner bee, but killer spin sounds much better.

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Originally Posted by alkibp

I agree with "Killerblast" and here's why.
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

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Ok, then what is a super pastel x pinstripe??

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Killer blast is with out spider. Killer spin or kill spin is what I've always heard and called them.

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I believe you, sir, are mistaken. This morph without the spider gene is a "Super Blast".
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

When spider is present in this morph it is a Killer Blast.
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

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Originally Posted by Powerspythons

Ok, then what is a super pastel x pinstripe??

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Super Blast.
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

Killer Spin and Killer Blast makes more sense to me with the trend of other super pastel names.... why'd we break the trend?

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Originally Posted by L2.BP.Plox

I believe you, sir, are mistaken. This morph without the spider gene is a "Super Blast".
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

When spider is present in this morph it is a Killer Blast.
http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

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Please take a gander at the world of ball pythons morph list and see that I indeed am correct.
Also see that a super blast and killer blast and the same morph.

Just remember everyone that people might simply have their own name for it..names change over the years.. super Pastels used to be called Opals, super lesser's had a name at one point, People feel then need to discern between a Pewter and a black pewter..

So killer Blast, Killer Spin, Killer Spinner, or whatever is just a name.. doesn't change the genetics.

While I do agree with FreakieFrog, another thing to consider is geography. KillSpin is used more in Europe, whereas KillerBlast is used more in North America. Just like ball python vs. royal python.

If a super pastel combo contains spider, it is referred to as Killer. If someone said to me "I just hatched out a KillerMojave", I would assume it was a super pastel spider mojave...

That's why a SuperBlast is a super pastel pin, and a KillerBlast is a super pastel spinner...

Chris

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Originally Posted by mumps

While I do agree with FreakieFrog, another thing to consider is geography. KillSpin is used more in Europe, whereas KillerBlast is used more in North America. Just like ball python vs. royal python.

If a super pastel combo contains spider, it is referred to as Killer. If someone said to me "I just hatched out a KillerMojave", I would assume it was a super pastel spider mojave...

That's why a SuperBlast is a super pastel pin, and a KillerBlast is a super pastel spinner...

Chris

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Must be another geography thing because here in the state's Killer means super pastel.. Like Killer clown, Killer Bee, Killer Queen Bee, Killer Blast aka Super Blast ect ect.. when it has spider in it we refer to it a bee, when it has both Pin and Spider it is a spinner or Spin (as a play on the spider Pin) , Pastel and pin it is a Blast..

so like an Albino Spinner or a Axanthic Killer Bee..

it get so confusing I quit trying to keep up.. LOL

i prefer the name kill spin. Im shooting for them next year as long as my killerbee female is ready to go. The male lemon blast is a proven breeder already so just waiting on my two prize females to finally get large enough to have a sleep over with him.

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Please take a gander at the world of ball pythons morph list and see that I indeed am correct.
Also see that a super blast and killer blast and the same morph.

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Brian Barczyk, of BHB: "Killer Blast" about one minute in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE8BuE-nZ0o

Garrick DeMeyer, of Royal Constrictor Designs, distinguishing that there ARE two snakes the "Super Blast" and the "Killer Blast"
http://www.youtube.com/user/thecrest.../1/rLKBl9JzR_0

got this problem when i hatched one out... what shall i call it??? but after lookin at garrick demeyers you tube video... all is clear.. :) until now there is still a debate for the name.. :)

so now i put the morph as... 'killer blast' aka 'super spinner blast'

but honestly.. i prefer killer blast... it gives it more kaPOOW!... :D

Q: "What's a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe called?"

A: - a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe

I get tired with naming of combos. Enough of the marketing game, guys.

As an update:
worldofballpythons.net has updated the name of this morph to "Killer Blast"
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/killer-blast/

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

here in the state's Killer means super pastel.. Like Killer clown, Killer Bee, Killer Queen Bee, Killer Blast aka Super Blast ect ect.. when it has spider in it we refer to it a bee, when it has both Pin and Spider it is a spinner or Spin (as a play on the spider Pin) , Pastel and pin it is a Blast..

so like an Albino Spinner or a Axanthic Killer Bee..

it get so confusing I quit trying to keep up.. LOL

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I agree! Killer Blast = super pastel pin. killer spinner = super pastel spider pin.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Q: "What's a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe called?"

A: - a Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe

I get tired with naming of combos. Enough of the marketing game, guys.

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This has some merit!

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Originally Posted by L2.BP.Plox

As an update:
worldofballpythons.net has updated the name of this morph to "Killer Blast"
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/killer-blast/

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You do realise they aren't some "official" naming authority, right? :D

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Originally Posted by L2.BP.Plox

As an update:
worldofballpythons.net has updated the name of this morph to "Killer Blast"
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/killer-blast/

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Doesn't make sense to me. As with a few other people that have commented to me "Killer" implies Super Pastel (like Killer Clown) and Blast just implies Pinstripe (like Lemon Blast)

Anytime the Spider and Pinstripe morphs are combined they are refereed to as a "Spinner"

So to me Killer Spin makes perfect sense and describes the genetics contained (Super Pastel Spinner) very well.

To me Killer Spin or Super Spin would make the most sense as the name of the Super Pastel Spider Pinstripe versus "Killer Blast" which I think is too confusing with a Super Pastel Pinstripe (Super Blast)

To wrap this up I think if anything the name should at least have "Spin" or "Spinner" in there somewhere to imply that there is both a Spider and Pinstripe gene present in the animal.

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Originally Posted by wax32

You do realise they aren't some "official" naming authority, right? :D

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i sure hope not, look through their list they got a lot of stuff in the "aka" named wrong.

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Originally Posted by Agent73

Doesn't make sense to me. As with a few other people that have commented to me "Killer" implies Super Pastel (like Killer Clown) and Blast just implies Pinstripe (like Lemon Blast)

Anytime the Spider and Pinstripe morphs are combined they are refereed to as a "Spinner"

So to me Killer Spin makes perfect sense and describes the genetics contained (Super Pastel Spinner) very well.

To me Killer Spin or Super Spin would make the most sense as the name of the Super Pastel Spider Pinstripe versus "Killer Blast" which I think is too confusing with a Super Pastel Pinstripe (Super Blast)

To wrap this up I think if anything the name should at least have "Spin" or "Spinner" in there somewhere to imply that there is both a Spider and Pinstripe gene present in the animal.

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actually it can make sense

super blast + Killerbee = Killer blast

its not like super pastels are called killers, back when it got named im sure the word killer implied super pastel/spider and adding blast implies pinstripe. then people followed another trend with naming snakes, but its still called what its called.

go yell at BHB if you don't like it lol, it doesn;t make sense today, but im sure it did back then.

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Originally Posted by Agent73

Doesn't make sense to me. As with a few other people that have commented to me "Killer" implies Super Pastel (like Killer Clown) and Blast just implies Pinstripe (like Lemon Blast)

Anytime the Spider and Pinstripe morphs are combined they are refereed to as a "Spinner"

So to me Killer Spin makes perfect sense and describes the genetics contained (Super Pastel Spinner) very well.

To me Killer Spin or Super Spin would make the most sense as the name of the Super Pastel Spider Pinstripe versus "Killer Blast" which I think is too confusing with a Super Pastel Pinstripe (Super Blast)

To wrap this up I think if anything the name should at least have "Spin" or "Spinner" in there somewhere to imply that there is both a Spider and Pinstripe gene present in the animal.

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I agree 100% with you and see it the same way .. By name Killer Spinner you know that there is a Super Pastel Pinstripe and Spider in ..

I have the last few days talking to different breeders about this name

Some breeders call it Killer Spinner and others call it Killer Blast ..
After that it's Brian has made it first, we have decided at Worldofballpythons.com correct name so it fits with what he says it was called from the beginning ..

It would be nice if there was an "official naming authority", as with the AKC and dogs. Some central body which agrees on the name, genetics, and confirmation of different morphs would certainly be useful.

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Originally Posted by L2.BP.Plox

As an update:
worldofballpythons.net has updated the name of this morph to "Killer Blast"
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/killer-blast/

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The pictures they have for the super blast are actually killer blast aren't they?

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Originally Posted by bassistjon112

The pictures they have for the super blast are actually killer blast aren't they?

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WOB has super blast as an aka for killer blast... they got a lot of names messed up.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

WOB has super blast as an aka for killer blast... they got a lot of names messed up.

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Where do you see that ?

Funny you walk around in such small shoes. Concentrate on you own things.
Its hard to take you seriously when your own stuff is messed up !

Of course that website is messed up. It isn't an official anything. It isn't NERD or RDR or TSK.. Etc..

It's just someone who likes ball pythons who has been searching the net for a few years collecting info and pics.

Please don't take what that site says as gospel.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Of course that website is messed up. It isn't an official anything. It isn't NERD or RDR or TSK.. Etc..

It's just someone who likes ball pythons who has been searching the net for a few years collecting info and pics.

Please don't take what that site says as gospel.

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we have actually contact with the most of the breeder who sends us pictures and comes with information about the different morphs.

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Originally Posted by thb

Where do you see that ?

Funny you walk around in such small shoes. Concentrate on you own things.
Its hard to take you seriously when your own stuff is messed up !

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wow hostile much?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...illerblast.png

that's where I see that

no reason to get mad lol, I think I've been pretty humble so far.

but I would love to hear, hows my stuff messed up exactly? I've asked for feedback and haven't herd from ya, so lets hear it.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

wow hostile much?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...illerblast.png

that's where I see that

no reason to get mad lol, I think I've been pretty humble so far.

but I would love to hear, hows my stuff messed up exactly? I've asked for feedback and haven't herd from ya, so lets hear it.

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That screenshot must have been old, cause as Allan described earlier after speaking to diff. breeders, we just have to accept that some morph names aren't build up "correctly". As people writes in this thread, we are not some official thing, but some guys that loves the internet and ball pythons. And we love to educate, or at least help people to understand how wonderfull an animals ball pythons is. The important thing about the site, is that it is not build on our thoughts and belives, but ist just us who has collected the puzzle bricks, and put them together, in the hope of a site that can help people.

Thats proberbly why I get mad when you just write such non helpfull stuff. I think I was pretty helpfull in our thread about your wizard, and came with alot of usefull help. Its right that I dont wanna give you my code and tell you all about the work that I have used many hours doing, but will you blame me for that ???

I would be happy to recieve a list from you with all our mess if you are that humle, cause then nobody would get confused when visiting. And there is alot of visitors. We are all into give the visitor a good time.

If you want to talk more please send me an email or other.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

wow hostile much?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...illerblast.png

that's where I see that

no reason to get mad lol, I think I've been pretty humble so far.

but I would love to hear, hows my stuff messed up exactly? I've asked for feedback and haven't herd from ya, so lets hear it.

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Where did you get that picture.. the skins don't add up...
It looks like this..
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7...creensnapz.jpg

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Just to ease tensions, and resolve conflicts, I have a name for the Super Pastel Spider Pinstripe that we can all agree on--

BEAUTIFUL.

We all love these snakes, lets not worry about the little things! When in doubt, just add parenthesis and list the morphs :D!

Cheers,
-Matt

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Originally Posted by thb

That screenshot must have been old, cause as Allan described earlier after speaking to diff. breeders, we just have to accept that some morph names aren't build up "correctly". As people writes in this thread, we are not some official thing, but some guys that loves the internet and ball pythons. And we love to educate, or at least help people to understand how wonderfull an animals ball pythons is. The important thing about the site, is that it is not build on our thoughts and belives, but ist just us who has collected the puzzle bricks, and put them together, in the hope of a site that can help people.

Thats proberbly why I get mad when you just write such non helpfull stuff. I think I was pretty helpfull in our thread about your wizard, and came with alot of usefull help. Its right that I dont wanna give you my code and tell you all about the work that I have used many hours doing, but will you blame me for that ???

I would be happy to recieve a list from you with all our mess if you are that humle, cause then nobody would get confused when visiting. And there is alot of visitors. We are all into give the visitor a good time.

If you want to talk more please send me an email or other.

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ok ill stop being humble :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ser/really.png

Its not old, go to your site and look, I even cleared my cache, so you still need to fix it. as far as i know, who ever makes the snake gets to name it, so brian named it that, case closed? conclusion of this thread: killer blast is super pastel/pin/spider, super blast is a super pastel/pin.

I wouldn't consider my comment non-helpful. you guys have the biggest gallery of pictures (atleast that I know of), therefore a lot of people look on your site and take its content as truth. then threads like this come and confusion happens. So IMO two things have to happen, update your site, or we got to stop having people take your site as gospel. Your site is famous, IMO responsibility comes with it.

I have sent you guys two emails in the past, first was over a year ago, which had a list of 5 or 6 names that were screwed up that me and a friend noticed back then and also had suggestions for your calculator, because it can give wrong answers or error out on some of them (and since im not being humble, i will add, they still give wrong answers and error out). i got no response

2nd email asked for help with the calc I made, but also go no response from you, I just wanted a step in the right direction, I don't blame you for not going "here's the code" by any means, but I figured it out anyways, your criticism helped me and I thank you for that. check it out now.

I don't expect anyone to be perfect, but don't pretend like this wasn't brought up a long time ago. If you ignored my emails, thats fine, after all i walk around in such small shoes.

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Originally Posted by snake-zone.dk

Where did you get that picture.. the skins don't add up...
It looks like this..

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I took a screen shot, twice now.

your using the quick search, im just ctrl + f killer blast, click enter twice. or just scroll down to it

The Screen Shut i have postet is made after THB made his post.. so you need to fix your computer.. ;)

Now i have done the way you said..

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3...reensnapzr.jpg

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Originally Posted by snake-zone.dk

The Screen Shut i have postet is made after THB made his post.. so you need to fix your computer.. ;)

Now i have done the way you said..

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isn't it nice when you update? now It finally works :)

The skin on the Killer Blast on your Computer is from the Jigsaw Blast and the one on the Killer Bee Yellow Belly is from The Jigsaw..

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Originally Posted by snake-zone.dk

The skin on the Killer Blast on your Computer is from the Jigsaw Blast and the one on the Killer Bee Yellow Belly is from The Jigsaw..

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I thought it was a cache issue but now I don't know.
My images I posted show up every time I close my browser, but then the edited way shows up after I do your quick search thing and then every time after that. once I kill my browser and go back to your site, its back to my images until I do your quick search thing.... still might be a cache issue, but I'm not sure.

hope that helps, i'm sure i'm not the only one seeing it.