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  • 11-02-2010, 10:48 AM
    One50One
    Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Dreamsicle

    Albino Pied


    My long term goal is one of the two.

    My wife wants the dreamsicle and I want the albino pied. We are putting a lot of thought into this project.

    So I'm coming to you guys if you could have one over the other and why?
  • 11-02-2010, 10:50 AM
    One50One
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Sry the poll did not work maybe a mod can fix?
  • 11-02-2010, 10:57 AM
    cinderbird
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    why not get a pied male, a lav albino female and a regular albino female and make double hets for both and go from there ? :)
  • 11-02-2010, 11:14 AM
    zina10
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    why not get a pied male, a lav albino female and a regular albino female and make double hets for both and go from there ? :)

    great idea :)
  • 11-02-2010, 11:26 AM
    One50One
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    why not get a pied male, a lav albino female and a regular albino female and make double hets for both and go from there ? :)

    $$$$
  • 11-02-2010, 04:22 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by One50One View Post
    $$$$

    theres a big difference in price between a normal albino and lav albino, if ur gonna go the dream route, the extra albino isn't gonna cost you that much more.
  • 11-02-2010, 04:42 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    theres a big difference in price between a normal albino and lav albino, if ur gonna go the dream route, the extra albino isn't gonna cost you that much more.

    I havent seen many visual lavs for sale, but the female hets ive seen and these are 2010 animals are 2500.00 at least.
  • 11-02-2010, 05:02 PM
    loonunit
    yeah, lavs are so expensive. And I've never seen an adult dream--I don't actually know that they really turn out all that different. As hatchlings they are pretty similar to albino pied.

    (That said, I went the dreamsicle route myself. But I had to start with het lavenders, because of the $$$... plus side is, I'll probably produce a bunch of lavender albinos along the way. Minus side is, it'll take much longer with hets.)
  • 11-02-2010, 08:19 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    I havent seen many visual lavs for sale, but the female hets ive seen and these are 2010 animals are 2500.00 at least.

    Female hets for $2500? I hope this is a Canadian price. I've seen visual lavs for $2500 and hets for $1000 pr.
  • 11-02-2010, 08:42 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    yeah het pairs are goin fer 1k...... I would assume you could buy a visual male or female fer the 2500 ur talking.... Yeah the xtra albino would be like 400 and give you a shot at both..... then to make it fun yall compete against each other to see who beats the odds first:banana:
  • 11-02-2010, 08:45 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    yeah, lavs are so expensive. And I've never seen an adult dream--I don't actually know that they really turn out all that different. As hatchlings they are pretty similar to albino pied.

    (That said, I went the dreamsicle route myself. But I had to start with het lavenders, because of the $$$... plus side is, I'll probably produce a bunch of lavender albinos along the way. Minus side is, it'll take much longer with hets.)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    Female hets for $2500? I hope this is a Canadian price. I've seen visual lavs for $2500 and hets for $1000 pr.

    it has been about a year since I looked at the prices for lavs. :p
  • 11-02-2010, 10:21 PM
    TessadasExotics
    um last I saw Lavs were going for 3500-4500 male-female. hets usually about 1200-1500 a pair. that was recent.
  • 11-02-2010, 10:51 PM
    shaunwithbite
    This will be an interesting project ... I don't care which one...i Think bright looking pieds will look great!

    Go for it! :gj:
  • 11-03-2010, 12:07 AM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    um last I saw Lavs were going for 3500-4500 male-female. hets usually about 1200-1500 a pair. that was recent.

    Yeah, the prices I saw were recent.
  • 11-03-2010, 04:49 PM
    nelson77321
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    ive seen a het female for $750!

    if it was me, id go for the dream route, by the time you produce the dream, you could probably buy a pair of dbl het albino pieds for about $1000.
  • 11-03-2010, 04:51 PM
    Powerspythons
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    I'm also working on this project! I am going with the loong loooong term version tho with a pair of het albino and a pair of het pied, I love both the albino and the pied so having them along the way will be sweet but I think the combo of them is just amazing...and I must say, for the price difference, if you're just going with the asthetics, I think the dreams are not that much more appealing than the regular ole albino pied.

    -Powers
  • 11-03-2010, 06:50 PM
    Boanerges
    Dreamsicle :gj: But you can't go wrong with either!!
  • 11-03-2010, 10:11 PM
    Dave79
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Albino pieds look better as adults than lavender albino pied do.
  • 11-09-2010, 11:09 PM
    fndjason4
    i have to say either is an incredible representation of what can be done with balls. However for what regular albinos are going for these days it wouldn't take that more of an investment to go for both.
  • 11-10-2010, 12:07 AM
    GuardianX
    If you can afford a lavender, it will be not difficult to afford another female regular albino.. probably you can ask for a bonus female albino from the breeder you purchase the lavender lol.
  • 11-10-2010, 07:37 PM
    Russ Lawson
    The contrast between the lavender and white of adult dreamsicles can't be beat imo. I'll eventually go for both, but I'm much more excited about the prospect of dreamsicles than albino pieds in the future. Either is probably a fairly long ways off here though. Since I have most of my females tied up in projects already, and still don't own a lav.
  • 11-11-2010, 12:04 PM
    Muttz-N-Such
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    After seeing both as adults the dreamsicle seems to fade more than the albino.
    That said i voted albino pied.
  • 11-11-2010, 09:39 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    i have half of what it would take to make the albino pied. Albino female het pied so i vote albino pied. but given the chance i would scoop a dream in a heart beat
  • 01-22-2011, 02:11 PM
    Amon Ra Reptiles
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    This is Becky of the scottnbecky lol but I'm in love with the dreamsicles! I think they are beautiful. But I also love the albino pieds. I think the orange in the dreamsicles really sticks out compared to some of the albino pieds. But if cost is an issue the albino pieds is the way to go at least to start out. Some of the albino pieds have just as beautiful color as the dreamsicles but u also have that chance of throwing some with less color ( not so much orange and more of the yellow color). Either way they are both extraordinary morphs. And like some of the others have said if you go and buy a lav most breeders will cut u a deal on a reg albino . Well good luck!!!!
  • 01-22-2011, 03:02 PM
    Dabonus
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Albino Pied all the way, but I am a little bias.

    Hopefully these two will be locking up next season for some double hets.

    http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...s/DSC_0056.jpg

    http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...s/DSC_0059.jpg
  • 01-24-2011, 04:56 AM
    AlanDavidExotics
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    I own 2 adult lavs and they look completely different. I think its possible to produce 2 different dreamsicles that look completely different. I was talking to chad @proexotics and he said he didnt post pics of his lavclown because its not a great example of the lav or clown. I bet the next one produced is going to be exceptional. BTW I should have a dreamsicle produced this year... wish me luck =):banana:

    http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...pictureid=2526
  • 03-04-2011, 12:22 PM
    garweft
    Re: Dreamsicle or Albino Pied?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottNBecky View Post
    This is Becky of the scottnbecky lol but I'm in love with the dreamsicles! I think they are beautiful. But I also love the albino pieds. I think the orange in the dreamsicles really sticks out compared to some of the albino pieds. But if cost is an issue the albino pieds is the way to go at least to start out. Some of the albino pieds have just as beautiful color as the dreamsicles but u also have that chance of throwing some with less color ( not so much orange and more of the yellow color). Either way they are both extraordinary morphs. And like some of the others have said if you go and buy a lav most breeders will cut u a deal on a reg albino . Well good luck!!!!

    A baby gets the orangeness from the pied more than the albino.... well that and occasionally a contrast boost in a photo editing program.... :oops:

    I like both, but don't like how faded the yellow gets in lavenders. I'm going for both but trying to work in another gene or 2 to each project for some surprises that hopefully add to the projects.
  • 03-28-2011, 08:44 PM
    purplemuffin
    I sort of like the faded look of the adults, I don't like faded regular albinos as much, but with the big patches of white from the pied it makes them look sort of soft and I dunno, creamy lol! They may be less contrast but they are very elegant and lovely. Antique. I would love both honestly!
  • 03-29-2011, 05:21 PM
    Miss Tuniwha
    oooh, both great looking snakes.. I wouldn't complain about having either :D

    I voted dreamsicle, because they are more unique.. but with that comes that price tag, so the albino pieds are more realistic..
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