Is this a common Ball Python or a diferent morph?

Hi everybody! This is a very nice forum, and I've been making some great research, but I was not able to come up to a conclusion, since I am relatively new to keeping Python regius.

I got this beatifull baby from a friend, and he was sent to me, as a common morph, but he is really diferent from my female.

This is the semi-adult female I have.

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/u...rpentes068.jpg

And this is the baby male that just arrived.

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/u...__/Ozzy021.jpg
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/u...__/Ozzy014.jpg

Could anyone give me some help on the subject?

Sorry about any grammar mistakes, english is not my native language.

Regards,

TRON

Wow I'd say it doesn't look normal, because I've never really seen a normal that red? Gorgeous whatever it is. I'm guessing some people will say normal but try to prove that snake out :) See what you get! Doesn't look normal to me! :)

whats the belly look like, if its a normal its a nice one, love that rich color

Never mind the morph... You got some great skills with that camera!!!

I always like to look at ball pythons like ralph davis would... I am always checking out his page to see what stuff he proves out!

Sure some things look normal, but not everything is. Plus, who doesn't love dinkin around? :D

I'd like to see what everyone says about this snake, let's get some expert opinions here!

I have a normal that is about this color. He seemed plain when he was a baby, but now as he reaches the 300 gram mark, he just keeps getting darker and richer looking. I would post a picture right away, but right now he is shedding.

You've got a really red one though! It's a bit of a deeper red than mine. Maybe you do have something special on your hands.

PS good photography!

Kaleb

looks like a normal that was perfectly photographed... AMAZING pictures they are.. AMAZING :bow::bow::bow::bow::gj:!!!!

Nice pictures, but not very diagnostic... 'Normal' or 'Wild Type' ball pythons are extremely variable. I'd like to see full body shots, full side shots and full belly shots before I could even make an educated guess... Just based on what I'm seeing now, they're both normal.

Thanks for the comments guys! I'll take some photos from diferent angles later and post them here. I am really not worried if it is or not another morph, its just curiosity.

Regards,

TRON

looks like a super normal lol, j/p nice looking snake

Very rich looking normals. Did you soak them or put something on them before you took the pictures?

The picture was treated in photoshop, but no color change or enhancement was aplied. Just birghtness, contrast, shadow and highlights intensity. Same as the other picture, taken from the female. To the naked eye, he is darker and the reds come up when flash or sunlight is on him. The litle guy is indeed diferent from most of the normal P. regius I've seen. I guess he's an abnormal normal! :P

Regards

If you post more pics, it'd be useful if you don't alter anything. Contrast is sometimes a big deal in coloration of a snake(morph or normal).

Both look like very nice normals. I've seen a few that were lovely almost mahogny colored with crisp edges. Never underestimate a really nice normal.

Oh! I see. Here go the same pictures with no editing.

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/u..._/Ozzy014O.jpg
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/u..._/Ozzy021O.jpg

Although I would say the treated ones look more like him, hehe.
I will try to get some other pictures soon.

Thanks for all the help. You guys are really nice.

Regards,

TRON

i know that pics are always different and on my monitor its looks so, and on yours looks maybe different. on my monitor it looks not really like a normal. at least like no normal ive seen!

at my monitor this snake is dark brown, or cinnamonish. never seen this before.

i would definatly hang on to him. u have a very nice dinker there. animals that doesnt look extrem as yours, have done major cool stuff when crossed into other stuff.

I made a little video of him, now its easy to see his real coloration. It is a video, but the colors came out 99% acurate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ochjSmsunaE

Regards

Woooaah the pic at :48 is awesome! Nice vid, and nice snake! He looks normal to me, but I'm am very, very far from an expert XD

I wouldn't be surprised if he is in shed in those pics. Since we can't see his belly I can't say much. I'm going with completely normal though.

Just for fun, here is a picture of four of my normal girls that will hopefully breed for me this year. As you can tell, they are four different colors, and none were in shed.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...Isis/038-3.jpg

Robin if you see this pic, your two girls on in there! They are both 1,300~ grams. The really brown one up front, and the funky brightish one in the middle is her sister. She keeps getting brighter, it's really weird.

He's super nice-looking, whether he is normal or not.

On a side note, is he always eating pinky mice or was that just for the video?

He is very dark and I don't think that is related to shed, he was exactly the same in the previous shed. He came out completely diferent from the others in the same hatch. He is also completely diferent from all the four variations you posted. beautifull snakes by the way. Guess I have to wait and see what he will become.

Thanks for all the comments.

Regards.

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Originally Posted by lexxielightning

He's super nice-looking, whether he is normal or not.

On a side note, is he always eating pinky mice or was that just for the video?

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Yeah I have that same question. He can eat something sooo much bigger than that.

I'm going with normal here. Is that the new Ozzy? Ugh, can't stand it...

Ill tell u wut. chances are its a normal. sometimes, like never but it happens, u get an incrddible new morph from something u never woulda thought. nobody knows until u proove it out. So it could b a normal with the smallest little variation that creates a genetic fluster with another morph. look at what granite to hidden gene is doing. Enchi to pied. All kinds of morphs out thier. someone had to put it to the test. The end result, go get a prooven co-dom morph and put um together. at very least ull make ur money back. lol;)

I had those pinkies in the freezer for a while and I wanted to clear them out. Thats why he is eating mice that size. :)

I have no interest in proving he is a diferent morph. I was just looking to find out, since I've never seen one that color. But it looks like many of you, arent 100% sure about that either. Most of you think he is a "normal", and "normal" I will call him, but I will sure breed him to see what I get.

Regards and thank you all, for all the comments.

TRON