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  • 09-20-2010, 12:54 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Normal with striped belly?
    I bought a Normal female that was already gravid, the guy I bought her from said he bred her to a Spider. Out of the 6 eggs, they were 2 Spiders, 2 Normals, and then these 2 that have parallel stripes (one on each side of the belly) that run down the side of their belly. The other 2 Normals have a belly that you would think a Normal would have. These aren't the best pics but you can kind of see the odd belly on one of them. Has anyone hatch Normals like this before?

    The 2 "weird" ones next to each other
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...heuron/032.jpg

    Better shows the belly
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...heuron/031.jpg
  • 09-20-2010, 02:31 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Worth breeding to a pied.
  • 09-20-2010, 02:33 PM
    Zack
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    It could be het piebald.
  • 09-20-2010, 07:26 PM
    wax32
    If one of them is a male breed it back to the mom next year. :D
  • 09-20-2010, 07:27 PM
    MS2
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    I've had very similar hatchling in the past and wondered the samething.:confused:
  • 09-20-2010, 08:45 PM
    MordreTheBP
    gorgeous normal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ive notice some darker reds in mine.... now its shedding... i can see all the colors...
  • 09-21-2010, 08:12 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wax32 View Post
    If one of them is a male breed it back to the mom next year. :D

    Both are females, but one of the Spiders is a male, so maybe it'd wortth it to bred him to mom next year.
  • 09-21-2010, 08:44 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Interesting belly, but not the same as het pied markers. I'd definitely hold it back though.
  • 09-21-2010, 08:46 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Interesting belly, but not the same as het pied markers. I'd definitely hold it back though.

    Agreed.
  • 09-23-2010, 12:41 AM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Interesting belly, but not the same as het pied markers. I'd definitely hold it back though.

    Thats what I thought too. And also one is goldish in color and has a couple places on her that are blushing. Ever since they hatched a few weeks ago, I've been searching for a picture that looks like them. The closest I can find that looked similar was a Specter. Now I have a couple years to decide what to breed them too.


    Took this today (with flash)...Odd ones on the outside, Normal in the middle.
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...heuron/030.jpg

    This one is without flash.
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...uron/032-1.jpg
  • 09-23-2010, 01:08 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JustinMaheuron View Post
    Thats what I thought too. And also one is goldish in color and has a couple places on her that are blushing. Ever since they hatched a few weeks ago, I've been searching for a picture that looks like them. The closest I can find that looked similar was a Specter. Now I have a couple years to decide what to breed them too.


    Took this today (with flash)...Odd ones on the outside, Normal in the middle.
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...heuron/030.jpg

    This one is without flash.
    http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...uron/032-1.jpg

    hmmm very pretty babies I have an odd one well the only one lackes the stripes on the belly like urs and well the colors on sides much more faded but waiting til first shed....hmmmm makes me even more curious......what did mom and dad look like
  • 09-23-2010, 09:45 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    hmmm very pretty babies I have an odd one well the only one lackes the stripes on the belly like urs and well the colors on sides much more faded but waiting til first shed....hmmmm makes me even more curious......what did mom and dad look like
    The mom is just a Normal and the dad just looked like a nice Spider to me, thats why I'm confused on where these came from...
  • 09-23-2010, 10:34 PM
    JEWSKIN
    hmmmmmm my new hatchling has same thing.....(not stealin thread promise)
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...101/idk199.jpg
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...101/idk200.jpg

    or at least really close........his parents dubbed normal....hmmmmm maybe we have freaks lol
  • 09-24-2010, 09:47 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JEWSKIN View Post
    hmmmmmm my new hatchling has same thing.....(not stealin thread promise)
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...101/idk199.jpg
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...101/idk200.jpg

    or at least really close........his parents dubbed normal....hmmmmm maybe we have freaks lol

    wow, they do look similar...hmm...I'm curious to know if they are just nice Normals or is something going on...I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see...
  • 09-25-2010, 02:41 AM
    chago11
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    My dinker's belly kind of looks like that
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_0666.jpg
  • 09-26-2010, 12:48 AM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chago11 View Post
    My dinker's belly kind of looks like that
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_0666.jpg

    He looks very similar to both of ours. Did you produce him? What are the parents?
  • 09-26-2010, 01:42 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    what the heck makes a dinker or what classifies it as such hmmmmmm what will become of our odd balls geepers
  • 09-26-2010, 02:38 AM
    chago11
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JustinMaheuron View Post
    He looks very similar to both of ours. Did you produce him? What are the parents?

    I did not produce him. As of right now he is a normal until I breed him and find out if he is genetic.
  • 09-26-2010, 02:43 AM
    chago11
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JEWSKIN View Post
    what the heck makes a dinker or what classifies it as such hmmmmmm what will become of our odd balls geepers

    A dinker is a genetically unproven oddball. Here are a couple more pics of him
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1668.jpg
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1669.jpg
  • 09-26-2010, 03:55 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chago11 View Post
    A dinker is a genetically unproven oddball. Here are a couple more pics of him
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1668.jpg
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1669.jpg

    so an odd ball normal with weird markings or colors or eyes if thats the case I have 3 proven wait 4 ha egg almost forgot lmao
  • 09-26-2010, 11:30 AM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Interesting that just popped up in a normal x spider clutch. I also have a dinker with the same belly (she's going with our yellowbelly next season ;)). Plus BOTH my het clowns have this same belly pattern and are almost desert-like in coloration. It might be worth holding on to them as a dinker project.


    Dinker

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...-094comp_2.jpg


    Dinker Belly

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...7-0921comp.jpg
  • 09-26-2010, 12:34 PM
    zappabama
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
  • 09-26-2010, 09:00 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Its interesting that so many of us have animals that look so similar. I'm definitely keeping the two females. But the two Spiders kind of have a reduced pattern, I might have to hang on to those too, just in case they have something going on with them that I'm unable to see.
  • 09-26-2010, 10:23 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    I thought thats what most normals looked like? lol I have 1 like that

    what does a normal's normal belly look like?
  • 09-27-2010, 01:42 AM
    Brandon Osborne
    Those bellies look like typical normals.
  • 09-27-2010, 12:16 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    Those bellies look like typical normals.

    Well I agree they aren't SUPER crazy looking however normal to me would have a more "messy" or speckled look. So I'm interested to see how these play out, if its just a belly trait that doesn't do anything or if it is a marker for something else.
  • 09-29-2010, 07:28 PM
    meeistom
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Looks like he might be a harlequin wide stripe. I have a few and they have the striped back and the striped belly as well. Breed it to a normal and if around 50% of the offspring hatch with the same striping then that's what it is.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chago11 View Post
    A dinker is a genetically unproven oddball. Here are a couple more pics of him
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1668.jpg
    http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1669.jpg

  • 09-30-2010, 03:57 PM
    JustinMaheuron
    Re: Normal with striped belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsmorphs2 View Post
    Well I agree they aren't SUPER crazy looking however normal to me would have a more "messy" or speckled look. So I'm interested to see how these play out, if its just a belly trait that doesn't do anything or if it is a marker for something else.

    I also agree with what you are saying, they look pretty normal but have "different" bellies. Take all the Yellowbelly, Fire, and Specters of the world and look what they do. They are all very subtle morphs and can be hard to pick out from the Normal next to it at times. Maybe two need to be bred together and see what happens, only time will time...
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