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Retained eyecap ?

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  • 08-29-2010, 08:45 AM
    JibbaJabba
    Retained eyecap ?
    She had a pretty bad shed about four weeks ago but I never noticed that one eye looks "cloudy". Today against the sun it did

    http://mike-1.titaninternet.co.uk/upload/Capture.JPG

    I suppose this is a retained eyecap ?!?
  • 08-29-2010, 09:09 AM
    xxxLIGERxxx
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    looks like it.

    i read somewhere that increasing the humidity helps loosen the retained eyecap.

    i forgot where but try to wait for some long time BP owners who had this problem before. im sure they have a better solution.

    good luck!
  • 08-29-2010, 09:12 AM
    ed4281
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    usually their eye looks more blue and foggy if its retained. That looks like a scratch on the eyecap that will probrably come off with the next shed. I hope some of the more expereinced people chime in incase I am wrong.
  • 08-29-2010, 01:06 PM
    Kaorte
    Looks just like a dented eye cap to me. Raising your humidity should make it go away.

    I try to not mess with eyes. They are very delicate and sometimes you can do more harm then good. And by harm I mean blinding you animal.
  • 08-29-2010, 01:20 PM
    JibbaJabba
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Looks just like a dented eye cap to me. Raising your humidity should make it go away.

    I try to not mess with eyes. They are very delicate and sometimes you can do more harm then good. And by harm I mean blinding you animal.

    Yea I wouldn't want to try rubbing something off which isn't anything to rub off in the first place. I think I'll give it moss on regular basis until her next shed and see how it goes after that.
  • 08-29-2010, 06:22 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    The crack is probably dehydration, make sure the snake always has water to drink
    Bringing up the humidity will help over time, it sounds like if your worried about a retained eye cap that you also know the enclosure has low humidity?

    This is one that came in like that and corrected itself after several sheds and went away.
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/PICT1570.jpg
  • 08-29-2010, 07:30 PM
    $Hakeem$
    Well one time my pastel haved one retained eye cap and i raise him a littlethe tupper humidity and i wait to see what hapened,and i see that in two weeks he lost his retained eye cap
  • 08-29-2010, 08:10 PM
    cschneider
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Looks like a scratched eye cap to me. Make sure your humidity is up a bit. You can also use eye drops twice a day. If it's uncomfortable, that might help, and if it's a retained cap, that will loosen it up.
  • 08-29-2010, 09:17 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Dehydration causes the eye to crack like that, bump the humidity and it will be fine, eventually it goes away, been there done that.
    The OP even states it had a pretty bad shed recently, it sounds like low humidity issues need to be addressed in the enclosure.
  • 08-30-2010, 03:25 AM
    JibbaJabba
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    The crack is probably dehydration, make sure the snake always has water to drink
    Bringing up the humidity will help over time, it sounds like if your worried about a retained eye cap that you also know the enclosure has low humidity?

    This is one that came in like that and corrected itself after several sheds and went away.
    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/PICT1570.jpg

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    Looks like a scratched eye cap to me. Make sure your humidity is up a bit. You can also use eye drops twice a day. If it's uncomfortable, that might help, and if it's a retained cap, that will loosen it up.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Dehydration causes the eye to crack like that, bump the humidity and it will be fine, eventually it goes away, been there done that.
    The OP even states it had a pretty bad shed recently, it sounds like low humidity issues need to be addressed in the enclosure.

    Humidity is always around 50-60% and she always has fresh water. I will give her some moss for the time being and see how she gets on. And yes, she did have a pretty bad shed a month ago which is why I started wondering as I checked both eyes after the shed and both were clear so the 'cloudy' eye just popped up really which confused me as I assume retained eye caps are visible straight away ..
  • 08-30-2010, 03:43 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JibbaJabba View Post
    I assume retained eye caps are visible straight away ..

    Retained eye caps are pretty easy to see right away.

    What do you measure humidity with?

    I go by one thing, do my snakes shed in basically one piece, if not then I have a low humidity issue and I fix it.
    I had a couple bad sheds a few months back so I taped over a few holes and the next sheds were perfect one piece sheds.(I use tubs only)
    I'm not saying you kept the snake in low humidity on purpose, just that the eye shows dehydration and you should up your humidity to help it heal.
    Good luck with it, I remember freaking out the first time I saw this so I can relate.
  • 08-30-2010, 03:52 AM
    JibbaJabba
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Retained eye caps are pretty easy to see right away.

    What do you measure humidity with?

    I go by one thing, do my snakes shed in basically one piece, if not then I have a low humidity issue and I fix it.
    I had a couple bad sheds a few months back so I taped over a few holes and the next sheds were perfect one piece sheds.(I use tubs only)
    I'm not saying you kept the snake in low humidity on purpose, just that the eye shows dehydration and you should up your humidity to help it heal.
    Good luck with it, I remember freaking out the first time I saw this so I can relate.

    Some digital hygrometer ... taping up the holes is a good idea, I got quite a few in there.
  • 08-30-2010, 03:57 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JibbaJabba View Post
    taping up the holes is a good idea, I got quite a few in there.

    May help some hopefully :)
  • 08-30-2010, 07:02 AM
    JibbaJabba
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    May help some hopefully :)

    The tub has holes on the left and right and a row on the top including above the waterbowl.

    One heatmat is underneath the waterbowl to keep the cold side at around 80F. I slightly increased the temps underneath the waterbowl to 84F to force evaporating.

    I closed half the row of holes on the top and above the bowl and add moss to her hide.

    Humidity is currently at around 65% just outside her hide. That should hopefull do it :)
  • 08-30-2010, 11:27 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    I'd block all holes on top, not needed and those will let out more heat and humidity than the side holes.
    Your humidity level is really good now, at that % you should see a nice shed next time.
  • 09-03-2010, 04:57 PM
    JibbaJabba
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    I'd block all holes on top, not needed and those will let out more heat and humidity than the side holes.
    Your humidity level is really good now, at that % you should see a nice shed next time.

    Blocking all holes brought the humidity up to over 90%

    When I lifted the hide there was water running down the sides (from the moss I suppose).

    Don't fancy her getting RI ;-)

    While we at it, a few people saying there is risk of RI if the humidity is too high. What is actually 'too' high?
  • 09-04-2010, 08:22 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Retained eyecap ?
    No holes up top, holes in the side.
    90% is too high IMO, try holes in the sides till it gets down to 70 or so and you'll have perfect sheds.

    I believe RI is more probable with low temps and low humidity.
  • 09-05-2010, 04:29 AM
    JibbaJabba
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    No holes up top, holes in the side.
    90% is too high IMO, try holes in the sides till it gets down to 70 or so and you'll have perfect sheds.

    I believe RI is more probable with low temps and low humidity.

    This is what I mean. As soon as I leave the holes on the sides only and tape the one on top I get around 90% humidity. I hope my viv builder gets his backside in gear :-(
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