Personal rules for internet etiquette

I have two personal rules when it comes to posting on internet forums.

1) don't lie. It's too hard to remember even the smallest of white lies.

2) if it takes me more than 5 minutes to write something, it's probably not worth saying. You have no idea how much trouble this little rule keeps me out of. Goodbye rants and raves etc.

How about you?

....I agree, but will add a no drinking and posting to that :rolleyes:

oh add: dont argue with people that disagree with your beliefs, it will only get you negative rep :O

and "don't be obnoxious or rude to people on the internet just because you can."

I'll disagree with the 5 minute rule. I prefer to take time to read over a post, especially if it might be taken the wrong way. So writing some replies takes 10 seconds, but some that are more important will take longer.

I try not to bother remarking on political or religious postings, because frankly, it's simply opinions, and everyone has the right to a differing opinion. Only when someone starts to say "Everything MUST go xxx" will I usually feel any urge to comment.

Not lying should be in all aspects of life really. It's much easier to keep track of one truth, than many lies. Unless your girlfriend asks if she looks fat or something that involves some polite fibbing, that is.

If it takes more than 5 minutes to write a post thats arguing with someone sure, but if your trying to explain in depth Ive done that a few times...

uhhh... Dont believe everything you hear. Even though thats not etiquette... Even like on here, I look at post count alot and reputation when people try giving advise... Or when in doubt as a mod/admin, I think they know what theyre doing most of the time :D

Uhhh... idk.

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Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles

uhhh... Dont believe everything you hear. Even though thats not etiquette... Even like on here, I look at post count alot and reputation when people try giving advise... Or when in doubt as a mod/admin, I think they know what theyre doing most of the time :D

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i mostly look at the "Join Date" because most of the people who are new to owning BPs will join right after getting a BP and need help or just want to socialize =p. i also look at rep ^-^

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Originally Posted by lexxielightning

and "don't be obnoxious or rude to people on the internet just because you can."

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Well said...:gj::gj::gj::gj:

first part yeah i agree 100% why lie (well unless your one of those lil kids trying to impress everybody. not) i use to be I'd say the biggest liar on the planet i could convince anybody of what i said then my pride and joy was born and i swore to never lie again so he didn't learn to lie just cause he could.

as to the second part one persons agruement is another persons debate (to me debating is not calling names or pointing out flaws in how a person types or talks as part of there debating the subject of a reason of why the person is wrong) to me that would be like saying i keep a boa and you got a python your wrong (types of snakes used just as examples) or your hair is black or brown or blond. so it has no bearing on the issue

i myself post count or rep don't mean squat yeah they may be new to a forum but that don't mean they can't offer a different perspective to look at the situation from. like maybe they had no interest in joining a forum until then. don't mean they necessarily just got there first animal. or it could even be they have a harder life then most and couldn't afford the internet before them joining. or it could even be they just got back into keeping after taking some time to figure out what they were going to do with there lives. and decided to get back into breeding (last time i kept ball pythons a ball python was a ball python not all these morphs (don't quote me but if i rember right there was albinos and maybe some pastels coming out back then). i read a morph list the other day was at 200+ and wasn't even past the c's.

i think even on the net a person should be judged like in real life (as everybody is going to have slightly different views on the same thing). don't mean they are dumb or don't know what they are talking about it means what it means they got a different view point. thats why i think somebody ought to set up a lab style room and try different things in all aspects of keeping what ever kind of herp they got from hatching the eggs to what they do for a full grown adult nearing the end of it's life. and publish the results they had.

i myself would love to see the results of varied temp on hatchings sex ratio's. like whole clutches incubated at a Lil different temp and see if we can have some control over hatching sex ratio's. i know in other herps temp helps determine sex ratio's

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Originally Posted by ice#1

i myself post count or rep don't mean squat yeah they may be new to a forum but that don't mean they can't offer a different perspective to look at the situation from. like maybe they had no interest in joining a forum until then. don't mean they necessarily just got there first animal. or it could even be they have a harder life then most and couldn't afford the internet before them joining. or it could even be they just got back into keeping after taking some time to figure out what they were going to do with there lives. and decided to get back into breeding (last time i kept ball pythons a ball python was a ball python not all these morphs (don't quote me but if i rember right there was albinos and maybe some pastels coming out back then). i read a morph list the other day was at 200+ and wasn't even past the c's.

i think even on the net a person should be judged like in real life (as everybody is going to have slightly different views on the same thing). don't mean they are dumb or don't know what they are talking about it means what it means they got a different view point. thats why i think somebody ought to set up a lab style room and try different things in all aspects of keeping what ever kind of herp they got from hatching the eggs to what they do for a full grown adult nearing the end of it's life. and publish the results they had.

i myself would love to see the results of varied temp on hatchings sex ratio's. like whole clutches incubated at a Lil different temp and see if we can have some control over hatching sex ratio's. i know in other herps temp helps determine sex ratio's

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About post count, sure they could have a decent ammount of knowledge but id rather go with someone who I KNOW, knows what theyre talking about. A lot of people join this site because they are absolutely clueless, and sometimes they still try to offer "information" which turns out to be mis-information.

that would be an experiment/research... You know for a ball python that would take over 20 years. And you cant just do it with a few snakes you would need a huge sample size, and probably of every morph if you want to be thorough. And thats just NOT going to happen...

idk about every one else on here, but why would think that everyone should be judged? Usually thats a bad thing and include ASSUMING things.

Someone should draw their own opinion about another person if thats what you mean. That takes time, and besides that, people can be completely different on the internet than they are in real life so that doesnt really help.

yes mean it like that.
Someone should draw their own opinion about another person if thats what you mean.

no dont think it would need to be done with every morph as after all a ball python is a ball python no-matter what it looks like color morph wise.

a good sized group of lets say 100 to 200 would be enough to get a general base group findings seen on somebodies signature where there is a program that lets you keep very detailed info on many snakes.
and they should be broken down even further to groups that for food 1 group gets just mice whole life. second group gets just rats whole life. 3rd group gets just asf whole life 4th group gets a varied diet. and a couple from each groups gets vitamins and minerals added to a couple of there prey doing that and records to show which works best for longest life of our pets or breeders we are in the 21 century yet we are still not applying any new things to our hobby well other then using incubators(whoopty do) and making fancier cages and thermometers and such. and with as long as people have been keeping ball pythons there has had to be a few people who were anal about keeping records in the beginning would think even more so with all the morphs and such now if they got 100 to 200 and tried to see what truly works best for the snake not what is easiest on our pocket books to feed them I've seen people spend a few hundred bucks just on a cage for a 20 dollar regular (i myself in the past alway built cage myself) but thinking about going with totes cause how cheap they are and can build a rack system way cheaper then any other option to keep more then a few snakes in

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Originally Posted by ice#1

yes mean it like that.
Someone should draw their own opinion about another person if thats what you mean.

no dont think it would need to be done with every morph as after all a ball python is a ball python no-matter what it looks like color morph wise.

a good sized group of lets say 100 to 200 would be enough to get a general base group findings seen on somebodies signature where there is a program that lets you keep very detailed info on many snakes.
and they should be broken down even further to groups that for food 1 group gets just mice whole life. second group gets just rats whole life. 3rd group gets just asf whole life 4th group gets a varied diet. and a couple from each groups gets vitamins and minerals added to a couple of there prey doing that and records to show which works best for longest life of our pets or breeders we are in the 21 century yet we are still not applying any new things to our hobby well other then using incubators(whoopty do) and making fancier cages and thermometers and such. and with as long as people have been keeping ball pythons there has had to be a few people who were anal about keeping records in the beginning would think even more so with all the morphs and such now if they got 100 to 200 and tried to see what truly works best for the snake not what is easiest on our pocket books to feed them I've seen people spend a few hundred bucks just on a cage for a 20 dollar regular (i myself in the past alway built cage myself) but thinking about going with totes cause how cheap they are and can build a rack system way cheaper then any other option to keep more then a few snakes in

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Yeah but what about the idea of spiders and head wobble. And to rule out any variation that might relate to morphs they would have to do it with each morph in the exact same situation as a normal, and then do all the different variations like food items...

But good luck finding someone to do that. Not something I would want to do. They eat anything they can. I dont think the type of rodent is going to make any difference (and just because its easy doesnt mean its not the right thing to do)

If anything they would just analyze the food items since thats basically all your talking about doing, besides temps throughout the life span, humidity...

I think people already treat their snakes like its going to die if everything isnt perfect. Temps and such in the wild are never perfect...

i mean just using the normals to get a base to start from cause lets face it with all the morphs it would be near impossible to do

as for food wouldn't you like to see some actual proof of what works best i know i would it would stop allot of fights. not just the old speech snakes have been eating mice in cbb breed for 30+ years i mean actual proof from testing showing what type or combo of foods worked best for the snake. could just be the way i was brought up to question stuff that aint got actual proof showing (yeah it might be common place but common place don't mean it is right) like just for example lets say a ball that eats nothing but mice whole group lives 20 to 22 year where ones that eat rats lived 24 to 26 years and ones that ate asf lived a Lil over 30 years. then if they lived longer or shorter if given vitamins and mineral supplements and same for if they ate a varied diet


yeah i can kind of see what you mean about people treating them like they are dieing to an extent (but the temp and humidity has kind of been researched to an extent) so others have figured what worked best for longest life of a cbb ball python now just need to take further steps to study and document what foods and other factors work best since we already know perfect environment.

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Originally Posted by ice#1

i mean just using the normals to get a base to start from cause lets face it with all the morphs it would be near impossible to do

as for food wouldn't you like to see some actual proof of what works best i know i would it would stop allot of fights. not just the old speech snakes have been eating mice in cbb breed for 30+ years i mean actual proof from testing showing what type or combo of foods worked best for the snake. could just be the way i was brought up to question stuff that aint got actual proof showing (yeah it might be common place but common place don't mean it is right) like just for example lets say a ball that eats nothing but mice whole group lives 20 to 22 year where ones that eat rats lived 24 to 26 years and ones that ate asf lived a Lil over 30 years. then if they lived longer or shorter if given vitamins and mineral supplements and same for if they ate a varied diet


yeah i can kind of see what you mean about people treating them like they are dieing to an extent (but the temp and humidity has kind of been researched to an extent) so others have figured what worked best for longest life of a cbb ball python now just need to take further steps to study and document what foods and other factors work best since we already know perfect environment.

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Im not really that interested to know which rodents are best. If anything you wouldnt have to do it with snakes it would just be using the rodents and analyzing their nutrient levels. Which also all depends on their diet. That would be something that could be done probably pretty easily.

Maybe the ones that lived longer just had better genetics. You cant really prove anything with that. Theyre all the same animal but genetics are a huge part of it.

I know the temp and humidity does matter TO an extent. But some people feel it has to be EXACT. Sure drastic changes are bad but a few variations isnt bad...

believe half of what you hear and half of what you see :gj:

Don't type anything in a forum that you wouldn't say to someone face to face.

And how about...don't go wildly off topic in threads? Guys? :rolleyes:

My got do I agree with lovelace... DO NOT after a night of drinking log on to post a few things before going to bed... it ALWAYS ends up badly!

LOL, 99% of my infraction points came as a direct result of me learning the importance of this rule!

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

My got do I agree with lovelace... DO NOT after a night of drinking log on to post a few things before going to bed... it ALWAYS ends up badly!

LOL, 99% of my infraction points came as a direct result of me learning the importance of this rule!

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:that is just classic!!

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

My got do I agree with lovelace... DO NOT after a night of drinking log on to post a few things before going to bed... it ALWAYS ends up badly!

LOL, 99% of my infraction points came as a direct result of me learning the importance of this rule!

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x 3... ROFL...

So we have Drunk Dialing, Drunk Texting and Drunk Forum Posting...:D:D:D