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A question about Bees

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  • 08-16-2010, 01:22 PM
    Tzeentch
    A question about Bees
    Is is right for someone to call a lesser X spider a lesser bee or a butter X spider a butter bee?

    To be a true bee, should it not be lesser X spider X pastel or butter X spider X pastel?
  • 08-16-2010, 01:27 PM
    Askook
    Re: A question about Bees
    Yeah its what they are
  • 08-16-2010, 01:29 PM
    sho220
    Re: A question about Bees
    Spider x Lesser x Pastel is a Queenbee: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
  • 08-16-2010, 01:30 PM
    Askook
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Spider x Lesser x Pastel is a Queenbee: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

    True but they call a lesser x spider a lesserbee i dont know why!
  • 08-16-2010, 01:31 PM
    Askook
    Re: A question about Bees
    Just like they call a cinny x spider a cinnybee
  • 08-16-2010, 01:41 PM
    sho220
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Askook View Post
    True but they call a lesser x spider a lesserbee i dont know why!

    Cause it sounds better than "Lesser Spider"? :) I don't think there is just a plain "Bee"... Pastel x Spider is a Bumblebee which is what a lot of people simply call a Bee...
  • 08-16-2010, 01:46 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tzeentch View Post
    Is is right for someone to call a lesser X spider a lesser bee or a butter X spider a butter bee?

    To be a true bee, should it not be lesser X spider X pastel or butter X spider X pastel?


    Bee means it has spider in it.. pastel gets a different name depending on what else is in it..
  • 08-16-2010, 01:56 PM
    angllady2
    Re: A question about Bees
    My theory on this has always been:

    First spider morph produced was the Pastel X Spider cross, and because it was bright yellow and black the breeder thought it looked like and therefore named it Bumblebee.

    Other spider breeders thought the name was very cool and decided the best way to shorten the names of a morph containing the spider gene was just to tack the word "bee" onto the end.

    So each time a new spider morph was produced, they gave it a name that included bee. It seems as though the tradition continues today.

    Gale
  • 08-16-2010, 02:00 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    My theory on this has always been:

    First spider morph produced was the Pastel X Spider cross, and because it was bright yellow and black the breeder thought it looked like and therefore named it Bumblebee.

    Other spider breeders thought the name was very cool and decided the best way to shorten the names of a morph containing the spider gene was just to tack the word "bee" onto the end.

    So each time a new spider morph was produced, they gave it a name that included bee. It seems as though the tradition continues today.

    Gale

    Your Theory is correct
  • 08-16-2010, 02:01 PM
    sho220
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    My theory on this has always been:

    First spider morph produced was the Pastel X Spider cross, and because it was bright yellow and black the breeder thought it looked like and therefore named it Bumblebee.

    Other spider breeders thought the name was very cool and decided the best way to shorten the names of a morph containing the spider gene was just to tack the word "bee" onto the end.

    So each time a new spider morph was produced, they gave it a name that included bee. It seems as though the tradition continues today.

    Gale

    What she said! :gj:
  • 08-16-2010, 02:16 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: A question about Bees
    I think everyone would be much better off if things were just called by what basic morphs are in it. Not just with spiders combos, but with every combo. These combo names just get more and more confusing and with new combo's being made all the time it has pretty much become a joke in my opinion.
  • 08-16-2010, 02:23 PM
    Jsh
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    I think everyone would be much better off if things were just called by what basic morphs are in it. Not just with spiders combos, but with every combo. These combo names just get more and more confusing and with new combo's being made all the time it has pretty much become a joke in my opinion.

    x2
  • 08-16-2010, 02:24 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    I think everyone would be much better off if things were just called by what basic morphs are in it. Not just with spiders combos, but with every combo. These combo names just get more and more confusing and with new combo's being made all the time it has pretty much become a joke in my opinion.

    What? Are you kidding?

    Because, I'm not sure I would want to walk up to a breeder and inquire about a four morph combo. Especially if they are busy. That's like saying Ford, Chevy, and Dodge should just be referred to as cars, trucks, and vans.

    "Excuse me, I'm looking for an Axanthic, Pastel, Cinnamon, Spider?" I'm pretty sure you would have to repeat that a few more times. Rather than "Axanthic Pewter Bee." People just need to learn what they mean. It's not that difficult.
  • 08-16-2010, 02:56 PM
    sho220
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    What? Are you kidding?

    Because, I'm not sure I would want to walk up to a breeder and inquire about a four morph combo. Especially if they are busy. That's like saying Ford, Chevy, and Dodge should just be referred to as cars, trucks, and vans.

    "Excuse me, I'm looking for an Axanthic, Pastel, Cinnamon, Spider?" I'm pretty sure you would have to repeat that a few more times. Rather than "Axanthic Pewter Bee." People just need to learn what they mean. It's not that difficult.

    I find it pretty confusing...although I've never bothered to really try to memorize everything. I just google it...:D I even google'd Bumblebee earlier in this thread to make sure I sounded like I knew what I was talking about. :weirdface getting old stinks...
  • 08-16-2010, 03:41 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    What? Are you kidding?

    Because, I'm not sure I would want to walk up to a breeder and inquire about a four morph combo. Especially if they are busy. That's like saying Ford, Chevy, and Dodge should just be referred to as cars, trucks, and vans.

    "Excuse me, I'm looking for an Axanthic, Pastel, Cinnamon, Spider?" I'm pretty sure you would have to repeat that a few more times. Rather than "Axanthic Pewter Bee." People just need to learn what they mean. It's not that difficult.

    Yes I would rather say I am looking for a Pastel axanthic spider cinny. You used an example with well know morphs. What about all of these less well known combo names. It is not possible to remember every one of them now and it is only going to get worse.
  • 08-16-2010, 03:50 PM
    Gloryhound
    Re: A question about Bees
    Call it a whachamacallit, but if I think it looks cool enough compared to the dollar value beside it and the current state of my wallet is in good repair, I'll call it mine! :gj:

    Lets face it the only reason to know the base morphs involved is for breeding purposes. If your buying a breeder investment you better do your research first anyway and know what you are looking for. Otherwise you could get sold a bag of magic beans that in reality are nothing more than beans!
  • 08-16-2010, 03:56 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    What? Are you kidding?



    "Excuse me, I'm looking for an Axanthic, Pastel, Cinnamon, Spider?" I'm pretty sure you would have to repeat that a few more times. Rather than "Axanthic Pewter Bee." People just need to learn what they mean. It's not that difficult.

    Also, your example only saved you saying one extra word.
  • 08-16-2010, 03:57 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: A question about Bees
    Lol. I'm lazy. I like some of the names too. It does get confusing, but I don't think the real names will ever be lost. I like the names like Panda pied, rather than super black pastel pied. But, you should be able to use either. You can't stop people from abbreviating. It's a tradition. Lol.

    I think some of the big breeders do it to keep people guessing what makes the morph :)
  • 08-16-2010, 03:58 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    Also, your example only saved you saying one extra word.

    It sounded better in my head. Lol. Panda Pied is better example I guess.
  • 08-16-2010, 04:06 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: A question about Bees
    I also find it odd that the recessive stuff seems to have avoided a lot of the combo name mess that happened with the codoms. Not sure why but I am glad they did. I think the only recessive combo name that I can think of that lost the base recessive part in it's name is the snow.
  • 08-16-2010, 04:21 PM
    Gloryhound
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    I also find it odd that the recessive stuff seems to have avoided a lot of the combo name mess that happened with the codoms. Not sure why but I am glad they did. I think the only recessive combo name that I can think of that lost the base recessive part in it's name is the snow.

    Spied, Carmal glow, Panda Pied, P.O.G., Candy Clown,... :weirdface
  • 08-16-2010, 04:37 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: A question about Bees
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gloryhound View Post
    Spied, Carmel glow, Panda Pied, P.O.G., Candy Clown,... :weirdface

    All of those still have the base recessive in the name.
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