about killer Bee

HI!
anybody can teach me how to calculate the genetic of killer bee ,i m very confuse about it !

for bumble bee X super pastel we got the gen

P2S (P2--pastel) (S--- spider) ----bumble bee

P2P2 (P2--pastel)(P2--pastel) ---- super pastel

so bumble bee X super pastel

P2S X P2P2

1)P2P2 super pastel
2)P2P2 super pastel
3)P2S bumble bee
4)P2S bumble bee

so how come we will got killer bee ???
what is the killer bee's gens???

thank you very much to everybody ,please teach me in simple graph form !

You did your computation wrong.

Here are the possible outcomes:

1/4 pastel
1/4 bumblebee
1/4 super pastel
1/4 killerbee

so can u show me your calculation ? what gens does killer carry ?

thankyou very much

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Originally Posted by pie888

so can u show me your calculation ? what gens does killer carry ?

thankyou very much

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It is a super pastel and a spider.

have u checked this site...

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...iller-bee.html

this is MY way - some may agree, some not...

bee x super pastel =

...... N.... P.... S... PS
P..... P....PP...PS...PPS
P..... P....PP...PS...PPS

N = normal
P = pastel
S = spider
PS = bee
PP = super pastel
PPS = killerbee

a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post :)

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post :)

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Pssst Homozygous

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post :)

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so you mean killer bee is come from bumble bee X pastel not super pastel X bumble bee?
i m sorry i m a newbie of ball python and i dont know much about genetic !
thankyou very much

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Originally Posted by alan1

this is MY way - some may agree, some not...

bee x super pastel =

...... N.... P.... S... PS
P..... P....PP...PS...PPS
P..... P....PP...PS...PPS

N = normal
P = pastel
S = spider
PS = bee
PP = super pastel
PPS = killerbee

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hi ! Alan

as bee come from pastel and spider ,why it still carrying the Normal (N) gen?

pastel gen = P2N (co-dominant)
Spider gen = SN (dominant)

Pastel X Spider

P2 N
S P2S SN
N P2N NN

1)P2S (bumble bee)
2) SN (spider)
3)P2N (pastel)
4) NN (normal)

form the above ,it can show bumble bee do not contain (N) normal gens ,agree?

thank you very much:)

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Originally Posted by pie888

so you mean killer bee is come from bumble bee X pastel not super pastel X bumble bee?
i m sorry i m a newbie of ball python and i dont know much about genetic !
thankyou very much

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You can get a Killer from super to Bee.. in fact you get better odds of if that way

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Originally Posted by pie888

so you mean killer bee is come from bumble bee X pastel not super pastel X bumble bee?
i m sorry i m a newbie of ball python and i dont know much about genetic !
thankyou very much

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You can get a Killerbee by breeding either Pastel or Super Pastel to a Bumblebee the difference will be your odds per eggs.

Pastel X Bumblebee

25% Pastel
12.5 % Spider
12.5 % Normal
25% Bumblebee
12.5 % Killerbee
12.5% Super Pastel

Super Pastel X Bumblebee

25% Pastel
25% Super Pastel
25% Bumblebee
25% Killerbee

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Originally Posted by pie888

form the above ,it can show bumble bee do not contain (N) normal gens ,agree?

thank you very much:)

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any combo that carries a homozygous (super/same) gene pair within its genetic make-up (ie: super pastel, killerbee, superblast etc) will NOT produce any normals
a bumblebee doesnt have any 'super/same' gene pairs, therefore will be carrying a normal gene, therefore will produce normals

thankyou very much for Freakie_frog,Alan ,and all expert :):)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

You can get a Killerbee by breeding either Pastel or Super Pastel to a Bumblebee the difference will be your odds per eggs.

Pastel X Bumblebee

25% Pastel
12.5 % Spider
12.5 % Normal
25% Bumblebee
12.5 % Killerbee
12.5% Super Pastel

Super Pastel X Bumblebee

25% Pastel
25% Super Pastel
25% Bumblebee
25% Killerbee

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HI,Deborah
can u show me your calculation please
thank you very much X 100000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punnet_square

check this out. I hope it can help


http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

Another calc that can add %'s and you don't have to search for every morph, just type it in.

http://www.geneticswizard.com/