What would you do???

I have a (approx 2 ft.) normal girl bp that I may want to start breeding after another year or two. I was just wondering : What would you pair a normal with (if you didn't know if she was a het or not...)??? I know some of yall are always saying that you shouldn't pair normals with normals, so what's a good match?

I kinda want to go ahead and get a male soon, even if they won't be "together" for another year, but wanted your advice first.

Thanks!!!

All depends on your budget and what your looking to produce.

BumbleBee.... Then you can possibly get spiders, pastels, and bees out of the clutch.

Well, I was hoping to spend less than $200 on a young male...

Not really sure what I'd want to produce, esp. since I'll be starting with a normal

There's nothing wrong with pairing her with a normal. If you want to produce morphs, look for a dom/co-dom male that you like and fits your budget.

For under 200 some co-dom morph males you could probably pick up are:
Spider
Pastel
Yellowbelly
Cinnamon
Mojave

And I am sure there are more that I missed :)

Thanks guys!!! (and girls :P)

any suggestions on a good place to buy from btw??? (I live in North Texas)

A triple/quadruple codom/dom morph. Super x codom/dom morphs. Some unknown morph which you want to test. Yeah that's about all I'd pair with a normal. But that's me.

Just get a nice pastel or something het for something. That way you can produce more pastels for a super later, or you could try to produce a hom for whatever trait.

Although... normals seem to often be carriers for the daddy gene, so a lesser/butter would be a great choice.

Shows are a great place if you have any in your area, Kingsnake is also a good place, I have purchased many of my BP's or found breeders on there. Their is also an inquiries/feedback section on this forum

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Originally Posted by snakecharmer3638

BumbleBee.... Then you can possibly get spiders, pastels, and bees out of the clutch.

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I'm pretty sure you can't produce a bee from a bee X Normal.

Hmmm. I would probably go with a Pastel, Spider, or a cinny/black pastel. You could pick up a mojave too.

I think I would go with a pastel. They make great combo morphs, and are great if you ever plan on expanding your collection. You could have a super in 2-3 yrs.

I agree there is nothing wrong with breeding normals. The only problem is that normal males are hard to get rid of. Unless you plan on keeping all of them. I think a bunch of normal females are a must in ever collection. Well, at least a couple.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

I'm pretty sure you can't produce a bee from a bee X Normal.

Hmmm. I would probably go with a Pastel, Spider, or a cinny/black pastel. You could pick up a mojave too.

I think I would go with a pastel. They make great combo morphs, and are great if you ever plan on expanding your collection. You could have a super in 2-3 yrs.

I agree there is nothing wrong with breeding normals. The only problem is that normal males are hard to get rid of. Unless you plan on keeping all of them. I think a bunch of normal females are a must in ever collection. Well, at least a couple.

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Correction, you would have the potential of producing

25% bee
25% spider
25% pastel
25% norm

Again, thanks for ALL the help!!! I'm looking forward to start breeding, but still have a LOT to learn :D

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

I'm pretty sure you can't produce a bee from a bee X Normal.

Hmmm. I would probably go with a Pastel, Spider, or a cinny/black pastel. You could pick up a mojave too.

I think I would go with a pastel. They make great combo morphs, and are great if you ever plan on expanding your collection. You could have a super in 2-3 yrs.

I agree there is nothing wrong with breeding normals. The only problem is that normal males are hard to get rid of. Unless you plan on keeping all of them. I think a bunch of normal females are a must in ever collection. Well, at least a couple.

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You definitely can produce a bee from a Normal x Bumblebee. I had two clutches this year of Normal x Bumblebees.... 1 was 4 eggs with 2 spiders, 1 normal, and 1 bee, and the other was 7 eggs with 4 pastels, 2 normals, and 1 bee...

Try checking out this morph calculator:
http://geneticcalculator.traxxtec.de...ner.aspx?Art=1

There is a guy in Oklahoma that breeds. Constrictors.com He might be a little expensive, but all of his snakes look really nice. Also check around. The is a Texas Reptiles forum, and a woman in Spring Texas is selling a yellowbelly male, she also has a breeding age pastel pair that is REALLY affordable. I also found a girl that is willing to let me borrow her spider to breed to my super pastel when I'm ready.

good luck! I'd get a bumblebee if you can afford it, a lot of fun color combos can come out of that.

I'm rather fond of Mojaves...breed a Mojave male to your normal female, hope for a female Mojave...and down the road, once she's big enough, breed back in hopes of a Super. :D!!!

Or anyways, that's what I'd do. ;) I'm cutting out the middle man though by having recently bought a female Mojave, lol. Fingers crossed for whenever she's big enough!

With a 2 foot female, you likely have at least 2 more seasons to figure out what you're going to breed to her. By then, there will be MANY, MANY males that will be $200 or under.