Post your Black Pastel picts

Since the Cinny got a picture thread, it's only fair the Black Pastel get one...:neener:..so post 'em if you got 'em!!
Here's my '09 female, she shed today so I figured I would show her off.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...0_467020-1.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/100_3478.jpg

My male and one of the offsprings he sired

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ckpastel06.jpg

One of my females

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ckpastel07.jpg

Dave says thank you for starting the thread... he wanted his picture on the Cinnamon thread, since he kinda looks like them, but I told him to wait until there was one for Black Pastels. :D Here's Dave!

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p.../DavePaco1.jpg

(he was missing a few head scales from a bad shed)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...DavePaco11.jpg

Without flash...
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p.../DavePaco8.jpg

Some lovely black pastels!! heres my boy, hes alittle dark, but I love him. He has the sweetest personality, good feeder, and I got a killer deal on him from a local pet store where he was a drop off.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...t_2006/011.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...t_2006/013.jpg

P.S. The rest of you have gorgeous Black Pastels! I really do love this morph... :)

Hi,

Here's my little trooper Rowan - he's 476g and breeding like stink. :P

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9827/rowan1.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6676/rowan2.jpg


dr del

Here's the girl that we're hoping to make some black platinums with next year, although the picture is a little old. I really need to get some updated pictures of some of our girls.

http://www.metalmonkeyexotics.com/bl...l-gypsy-08.jpg

Gorgeous pictures everyone! Keep them coming!

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

Dave says thank you for starting the thread... he wanted his picture on the Cinnamon thread, since he kinda looks like them, but I told him to wait until there was one for Black Pastels. :D Here's Dave!

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p.../DavePaco1.jpg

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Lolo here's a question for you, I'm still trying to exercise my eyes in differenciating morphs and I need a little help here. Just looking at Dave's picture by itself, based on the characteristics (blushing, pale head, etc) I would have thought immediately cinny, and you say he kinda looks like one.

Is there anything that really differenciate Black pastels and Cinny's ? Or are the Black Pastel a darker version of the Cinny morph? Sometimes I really can't tell. And then throw a Blackback cinny in there and it's even more confusing...

Regardless I love Cinnys and Black pastels equally!

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Originally Posted by Mephys

Lolo here's a question for you, I'm still trying to exercise my eyes in differenciating morphs and I need a little help here. Just looking at Dave's picture by itself, based on the characteristics (blushing, pale head, etc) I would have thought immediately cinny, and you say he kinda looks like one.

Is there anything that really differenciate Black pastels and Cinny's ? Or are the Black Pastel a darker version of the Cinny morph? Sometimes I really can't tell. And then throw a Blackback cinny in there and it's even more confusing...

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I don't really get either, to be honest! :oops: I posted a thread asking if he was a cinny or bp when I got him, so you should read through the answers: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110236

According to Raul of West Coast Jungle: "One difference between a cinny and a black pastel are the sqiggly markes in the pattern. Meaning the cinny just has the round dots(like a mojave) in the pattern and the Blacks have this sqiuggly marks surrounding the pattern. Yours looks alot like a cinny but he has some squiggly marks associated with the blacks. Then again the head looks more cinny but belly looks more like a black."

I just know his lineage because of who produced him (Robert Seib), and who later sold him to me (Skiploder/Craig)... they're both very trustworthy sources, so if they say he's a black pastel that's what he is! There is a fine line between the two morphs, though, and I'd be interested to see a cross-breeding project. Has anyone does that, if so did they produce a super together?

P.S. Dave is from the Ian G line, which does seem to produce lighter cinny-like black pastels... I personally think they're beautiful. :)

Btw, here are a couple shots of Dave's telltale "squiggly" marks...

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF4898.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF4901.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

There is a fine line between the two morphs, though, and I'd be interested to see a cross-breeding project. Has anyone does that, if so did they produce a super together?

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Yep, breed them together and you'll get an all black snake. They're commonly accepted as being two sides of the same morph, similar to the butter/lesser gene.

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

P.S. Dave is from the Ian G line, which does seem to produce lighter cinny-like black pastels... I personally think they're beautiful. :)

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Weird, my Ian G. isn't light like a cinny ;)

Outback has several lines of Black Pastels as far as I know.

08 ~1500 gram female Ian G. line Black Pastel
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...te/Scarlet.jpg
Breeding black pastel het hypo, he's an old school Ian. G line Black Pastel
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...0515Medium.jpg
Locking up with a spider, she just wasn't ready to go this year, oh well next season she should be 1800+ grams
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...2319Medium.jpg
This is a hold back male Black Pastel pos het hypo
He's a 900 gram 1 year old now(no current pics)
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT2962.jpg

Our '08 girl, Canella. She just broke 1200 grams :banana:

I've always preferred Black pastels over cinnamons

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...3_728149_n.jpg

Some older pics of my black pastel Diva

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...z/dbb42f34.png

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...z/ff6ad175.png

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...z/06af33d2.png

I think its a black pastel (top); for some reason my mind goes berzerk when I look at hatchlings.

http://b-p.org/snakes/sibs.jpg

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

I think its a black pastel

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I think it is too :)

Hands down Gary Liesen has be best Black Pastels IMHO...

Below is my Black Bee and a Black Pastel that I wasn't able to get :(:(:(:( I'm still dying I couldn't pick her up...

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSCN0599.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...Ps/photo-2.jpg

My whttps://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...tin_20line.jpgee guy

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Weird, my Ian G. isn't light like a cinny ;)
Breeding black pastel het hypo, he's an old school Ian. G line Black Pastel
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...0515Medium.jpg

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These ones are a good example for me of black pastels. No doubts, nice dark color and squiggles.

Gorgeous!

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

I don't really get either, to be honest! :oops: I posted a thread asking if he was a cinny or bp when I got him, so you should read through the answers: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110236

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Well I guess I am at the same stand point I was with the Lesser/Butter conflict. I think they are 2 different forms of the same morph, some with noticeable differences and some without.

I personnally love the squiggles and the connecting floating side patterns, and just purchased a female cinny that corresponds exactly to what I was looking for. (forget about me waiting for October like I said in the Cinny thread:rolleyes:)

She is being sold as a cinny, but based on the description of a black pastel, then she might be a black pastel because she has squiggles. As far as I am concerned, she can be a black pastel cinnamon, I'm all happy with that.

Here's her picture, you tell me! Getting her on Tuesday :banana:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...innyLarge4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...innyLarge3.jpg

I love Black pastel, I just produce this Silver streak :)


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...lver_sreak.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...er_sreak_2.jpg

Wow, what a great group of Black Pastels!


Here is our latest additions and a VPI Black Satin Line Black Pastel.

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...neBlackP-1.jpg

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...eBlackPast.jpg

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

Wow, what a great group of Black Pastels!


Here is our latest additions and a VPI Black Satin Line Black Pastel.

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...neBlackP-1.jpg

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...eBlackPast.jpg

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Very pretty :gj:

Just bumped into this thread because I was curious about the variation among black pastels and these guys are just stunning. More pics, please?

Here's a couple of pics of a male we produced this year from a Black Pastel x Dinker pairing. Please forgive the poor quality of the images. We just got a new camera and I haven't figured it out yet. Give me a year or two. :oops:

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/IMG_0122.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/IMG_0124.JPG

Hi,

Is it just me or does the edge of the belly on that one really resemble a yellowbelly? :oops:

Here are a few pics of some I just hatched;

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7...hatchling1.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7...hatchling2.jpg


dr del

here is my new black pastel female http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/y...alls/001-1.jpg

Here is my boy

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...s/P1010969.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...s/Chevelle.jpg

My new baby Chevelle!!! Thank you Rockstar Reptile!!!

Black pastel pinstripe het ghost :D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../blkpin2-1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...666/blkpin.jpg

To me Black Pastels and Cinnamons look so different from each other. I think one of the problems is that some people get confused and label them wrong. I have seen Cinnamons listed as Black Pastels for sale online more so than Black Pastels listed as Cinnamons.

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/100_1180.jpg

My little girl

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1290353042

Here's my female:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...l/IMG_5978.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...l/IMG_5983.jpg