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  • 06-25-2010, 12:00 AM
    hunter94
    Sound Good?
    Here is a list Iv made for what I need for my BP. Does it sound good?

    ReptiBark
    2 Hides Snug fit for BP
    Fixture
    Bulb Low Wat around 50-60
    Heat Pad
    Thermometers
    Hygrometer
    Water Dish Big enough for the snake to fit in
    Branch/Branches Not necessary but good for the snake. =)
    Spray Bottle
    Long Tongs

    Tell me if I'm missing some thing.

    Thank You.
  • 06-25-2010, 12:05 AM
    Vilenica
    Re: Sound Good?
    Rats lol :rolleye2: A spray bottle is handy (not necessary) pair of long tongs or hemostats might be helpful but again not necessary.
  • 06-25-2010, 12:07 AM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vilenica View Post
    Rats lol :rolleye2: A spray bottle is handy (not necessary) pair of long tongs or hemostats might be helpful but again not necessary.

    Ah, yes good idea. I would of saw them at the store and got them but good to keep on the list. =)

    Thank You.
  • 06-25-2010, 12:10 AM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: Sound Good?
    hemostats and a garden type spray bottle are great things to have, replace your thermometer and hyrdometer with a digital accurite type
  • 06-25-2010, 12:17 AM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    hemostats and a garden type spray bottle are great things to have, replace your thermometer and hyrdometer with a digital accurite type

    Well I have two Reptile specified probe thermometers so I'm not going to let those go to waste I'll just get a Hygrometer or Gauge. If that doesn't work out as planned I will get a Accurite from walmart.
  • 06-25-2010, 01:20 AM
    stevepoppers
    Re: Sound Good?
    Anything but digital is useless. Trust us.

    You can lose the lights. The water bowl doesn't have to be that big.

    Where's you thermostat?

    Stuff to climb on isn't "good" for your ball python, but it isn't bad either. Some may use them some may not.

    Personally, I would use flexwatt for heating because it's so much cheaper and I wouldn't buy anything marketed for pets or reptiles. It tends to be unnecessary overpriced crap.

    Cage clips.
  • 06-25-2010, 01:40 AM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevepoppers View Post
    Anything but digital is useless. Trust us.

    You can lose the lights. The water bowl doesn't have to be that big.

    Where's you thermostat?

    Stuff to climb on isn't "good" for your ball python, but it isn't bad either. Some may use them some may not.

    Personally, I would use flexwatt for heating because it's so much cheaper and I wouldn't buy anything marketed for pets or reptiles. It tends to be unnecessary overpriced crap.

    Cage clips.

    In my opinion if my snake would climb and stuff I would call it good cause he would be interactive and getting exercise. (Not that its needed but its good in my opinion.)

    Also my cage doesn't need clips. Nor do I think they make clips for my type of cage. Its a slide on not a pull off. If snakes are known to get out of those please tell me though I will definitely look for clips.
  • 06-25-2010, 02:06 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Sound Good?
    You need a thermostat.

    You don't need the light fixture, unless you're planning to watch your snake at night--then you can use a blue light bulb. I wouldn't leave it on all night, just turn it on when you want to watch the snake.

    If you're using a tank with a screen top, you will probably have to cover most of the top with plastic anyhow, to hold in the humidity.

    I wouldn't bother with the 'Repti-Bark'. It's a pointless and highly overpriced product, and it absolutely cannot be cleaned in the ludicrous fashion described on the package. Get aspen shavings, and change them frequently. Or just use newspaper.
  • 06-25-2010, 02:55 AM
    I<3Dreamsicles
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    You need a thermostat.

    You don't need the light fixture, unless you're planning to watch your snake at night--then you can use a blue light bulb. I wouldn't leave it on all night, just turn it on when you want to watch the snake.

    If you're using a tank with a screen top, you will probably have to cover most of the top with plastic anyhow, to hold in the humidity.

    I wouldn't bother with the 'Repti-Bark'. It's a pointless and highly overpriced product, and it absolutely cannot be cleaned in the ludicrous fashion described on the package. Get aspen shavings, and change them frequently. Or just use newspaper.

    Lose the light fixture unless you wanna get a CHE...

    Plastic or anything really would work, I taped foil onto the top of my tank. Only problem is its really noisy and can rip easily :/

    I use reptibark and love it. (sort of). Well then again I also got it on sale... the biggest bag they have for under $15 or something like that. PETCO (its cheaper)

    Yeah that might be a bit ludicrous way to clean it... I just spot clean. Thats it... and Ive never had to really re fill the tank at all...

    The main problem with repti bark is its REALLY DUSTY. which is bad bad bad... I washed mine in water sort of like how they tell you to clean it... all the dust turns the water red. But besides that... yeah its probably not worth it but I like the look...

    GET A THERMOSTAT... Its a must. and LEARN HOW TO USE IT CORRECTLY so it doesnt think that its cold and heat itself up really hot...

    also, i wouldnt get branches but fake plants and stuff to take up space if you have a large tank work great. Gives your snake something to hide under when theyre out...

    I would also say that a spray bottle is a must... at least for me...
  • 06-25-2010, 11:08 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Sound Good?
    ReptiBark Not necessary. Paper towels or aspen would work.
    2 Hides Snug fit for BP Just make sure they are NOT the half log hides.
    Fixture Not necessary
    Bulb Low Wat around 50-60 not necessary
    Heat Pad
    Thermometers If you can get a hold of an accurite weatherstation, that would be your best bet.
    Hygrometer See above
    Water Dish Big enough for the snake to fit in You don't need one big enough for the snake to fit in. Two identical hides come first, if you can fit a big water bowl after that, go for it.
    Branch/Branches Not necessary but good for the snake. =) Once your snake gets bigger you will notice that it won't climb. These are terrestrial snakes. They don't climb around for exercise.
    Spray Bottle
    Long Tongs
    THERMOSTAT
  • 06-25-2010, 01:16 PM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    New list:

    Aspen Shavings
    2 Hides Snug fit for BP
    Fixture
    Bulb Low Wat around 50-60
    Heat Pad
    Thermometers
    Hygrometer
    Or Acurite WatherStation
    Thermostat
    Water Dish Big enough for the snake to fit in
    Branch/Branches Not necessary but good for the snake. =)
    Fake Plants
    Spray Bottle
    Long Tongs

    I wan't bulb to raise humidity but I already have the fixture just thought I would put it on there. Also whats a good cheap Thermostat?
  • 06-25-2010, 01:20 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Sound Good?
    The bulb will LOWER the humidity, not raise it.
  • 06-25-2010, 01:26 PM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    The bulb will LOWER the humidity, not raise it.

    Not if you put the water dish under it. =)
  • 06-25-2010, 01:34 PM
    Nocturnal
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Also my cage doesn't need clips. Nor do I think they make clips for my type of cage. Its a slide on not a pull off. If snakes are known to get out of those please tell me though I will definitely look for clips.

    I keep most of my snakes in tubs, but I have two in 40 gal slide top cages like that. I put a few strips of tape around the outside because I had a kingsnake pop one open once. It's a pain taking the tape off and on all the time, but it's better than an escape.
  • 06-25-2010, 01:39 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Not if you put the water dish under it. =)

    No, it will still lower the humidity. Putting it over the water bowl just creates a pool of warm water, which makes it a lovely place for bacteria to hang out.

    Using a lamp over a water bowl is not an efficient way to up humidity.
  • 06-25-2010, 01:41 PM
    sarahlovesmiike
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Not if you put the water dish under it. =)

    I tried this when I was still trying to use a tank and didn't actually work. Not saying it won't work for you though. You probably should get the lamp though in case you can't keep the ambient temps up. Humidity problems can be solved with a humid hide or just by adding moss to the enclosure.

    As for the thermostat everyone has been recommending this one lately, it's reliable and and cheaper than the ReptiTemp or the Zilla Temp Controller (which I use and is also very reliable but many people have had issues with it so I wouldn't recommend it).
  • 06-25-2010, 01:57 PM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sarahlovesmiike View Post
    I tried this when I was still trying to use a tank and didn't actually work. Not saying it won't work for you though. You probably should get the lamp though in case you can't keep the ambient temps up. Humidity problems can be solved with a humid hide or just by adding moss to the enclosure.

    As for the thermostat everyone has been recommending this one lately, it's reliable and and cheaper than the ReptiTemp or the Zilla Temp Controller (which I use and is also very reliable but many people have had issues with it so I wouldn't recommend it).

    Hmm, I'll give the Water Dish Lamp thing a try and yea it would be nice to have one just in case. ;)

    And I'll look into some thermostats just gets confusing trying to find a nice cheap one.
  • 06-25-2010, 02:06 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Sound Good?
    Well, you can use a light

    BUT

    make sure its:

    50 - 75 watt

    INFRARED (so the snake cant see it at night)

    This way you can keep ambients up and have the bulb running 24/7. as long as its infrared it wont disrupt day/night cycle of your snake AND you can still veiw it at night!

    Good luck
  • 06-25-2010, 02:06 PM
    Ham
    Re: Sound Good?
    You might try Cypress Mulch for substrate, it blows reptibark out of the water for quality, and it holds humidity better than aspen shavings, however aspen shavings in my opinion are much better than the reptibark.

    I list them for quality here, 1 being the best 4 being the worst, (in my opinion)

    1. Cypress Mulch ( If you have humidity issues this stuff works great!)
    2. Aspen Shavings
    3. Paper Towels / Newspaper
    4. Repti-Bark (ugh)
  • 06-25-2010, 03:05 PM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    You might try Cypress Mulch for substrate, it blows reptibark out of the water for quality, and it holds humidity better than aspen shavings, however aspen shavings in my opinion are much better than the reptibark.

    I list them for quality here, 1 being the best 4 being the worst, (in my opinion)

    1. Cypress Mulch ( If you have humidity issues this stuff works great!)
    2. Aspen Shavings
    3. Paper Towels / Newspaper
    4. Repti-Bark (ugh)

    I think I'm going to get Aspen Shavings because Cypress Mulch looks flaky and dusty.
  • 06-25-2010, 08:12 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    I think I'm going to get Aspen Shavings because Cypress Mulch looks flaky and dusty.

    I would say its the opposite. Cypress mulch has a natural moistness to it which makes it not very dusty at all.
  • 06-25-2010, 08:44 PM
    hunter94
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I would say its the opposite. Cypress mulch has a natural moistness to it which makes it not very dusty at all.

    Alright, I'll look into it. Just looks really dusty.
  • 06-25-2010, 08:47 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Sound Good?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Alright, I'll look into it. Just looks really dusty.

    You could use newspaper

    Just mist it a few times a day depending on what humidity you need. the paper stays wet for awhile so it just keeps humidity well, even with a lamp

    (I have like 7 layers of newspaper, if I mist well it will hold humidity at 70 - 75% for a few hours even with the heat lamp on)
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