Peeked in to an egg to

see this............... breeding was a Bt Granite Pin to a proven Granite producer
from Ozzy.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...E31/reaper.jpg

awesome congrats!

How many days along is that? I can't wait to see it when it hatches...

Isn't that a bit early to cut?

Na I've been cutting for a long time ........should be out next Wednesday or Thursday.

Nice veiw in that window!

nice way to go

nice congrats

Looks awesome!

Holy cow that's awesome!!!!! :bow:

I'm confused though. It was a granite pin to a granite? Does the "Bt" mean anything or is it some line of granites? What makes it silver?

Bt. From reptile radio produced the granite pin.
As far as color nobody knows ....it may be the first super granite pin ever produced.

It looks very sweet :gj:

That's going to be one sick animal. Can't wait to see those out of the egg pics. Congrats :gj:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ranite-pin.jpg
don't know if it is showing both granite traits or what

Can I ask why it is out of the egg before the yolk was fully absorbed?

it tried to crawl out...... not a big deal!
it was twisted so i untwisted it ...now it back in the egg

:rofl::rofl: the baby fell out its crib!!!:O :rofl::rofl:

Keep an eye on that if it was twisted. Many problems can arise from the umbilical cord being twisted or tied. Usually why they leave early is something is stopping the yolk from being absorbed.

yea i know .............its almost gone from the time i took the pic

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Keep an eye on that if it was twisted. Many problems can arise from the umbilical cord being twisted or tied. Usually why they leave early is something is stopping the yolk from being absorbed.

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What day to you cut those on?

It's been 2 weeks and they are still in the egg with yolk.

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it tried to crawl out...... not a big deal!
it was twisted so i untwisted it ...now it back in the egg

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Hope it does ok.

It's been my observation that when an egg is cut too early - there's more reported incidence of umbilical cords twisting around snakes.

I'm also curious what day you cut if it still had that much yolk still attached after 2 weeks?

Ok so it's not a silver snake, you just cut really early :( I was hoping it would be silver.

Looks cool. I hope that nothing happens to it from being cut around day 40 or so.

I love those Whacky patterned Pin's BT produces. Don't forget out of the egg pics

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Ok so it's not a silver snake, you just cut really early :( I was hoping it would be silver.

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Yeah, color is the last thing to come in.

I usually cut my eggs on a specific day and do really well
But that's me I would never say do it.......
But so far in 2010 97 eggs cut and,one twisted and,it is doing grate....
I'll post pic tonight or tomorrow.....

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I usually cut my eggs on a specific day and do really well
But that's me I would never say do it.......
But so far in 2010 97 eggs cut and,one twisted and,it is doing grate....
I'll post pic tonight or tomorrow.....

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What day is your specific day?

that i will not post publicly

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What day is your specific day?

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Well, 17 days ago was when this was posted. So id say around day 35-40?

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Yeah, color is the last thing to come in.

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Yeah I didn't realize it was cut that early. That would definitely explain the lack of color.

No picture yet :( I assume he/she is still doing fine? It looks really sweet!

It's a cute snake, but I think it was cut way too early and what you said about it at reptileradio conflicts a bit with what you said here ("it crawled out" vs. "I pulled it out"). :weirdface Being too handsy with a neonate that hasn't finished developing can't be in its best interest. Just my two pennies.

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It's a cute snake, but I think it was cut way too early and what you said about it at reptileradio conflicts a bit with what you said here ("it crawled out" vs. "I pulled it out"). :weirdface Being too handsy with a neonate that hasn't finished developing can't be in its best interest. Just my two pennies.

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you do things your way i do things my way ..... my way works for me
and have been doing it for a long time !
and as far as the statement on reptile radio bush league it was a joke

I've cut eggs too early accidentally before, but never had an issue arise from it. The primary concern is that bacteria can then penetrate the egg--so it's possible to lose a snake if its immune system cannot fight off the nasties that would get in. However, they certainly seem to be remarkably hardy.

I usually cut eggs at day 50, if I"m going to cut them at all, or I wait until the first one pips, and then snip the rest to prevent problems. I can say, though, that even 3 or 4 days prior to hatching, they may have no color yet. That truly is the last thing to come in before they pip. The yolk isn't absorbed until they pip, either--the size of the yolk sac in the second photo is completely normal for a pipping snake. I had a snake emerge with a yolk sac that size. I set it up on wet paper towel, and it absorbed most of it before severing the cord. That sac is actually half the size they are when the snake first cuts the egg. Nothing to worry about, even if it happened to break the cord at that point.

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you do things your way i do things my way ..... my way works for me
and have been doing it for a long time !
and as far as the statement on reptile radio bush league it was a joke

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Nice pin.:gj:

Just took this pic from my HTC evo
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...1/e9459467.jpg

nice i like that:gj:

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you do things your way i do things my way ..... my way works for me
and have been doing it for a long time !
and as far as the statement on reptile radio bush league it was a joke

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You first posted about cutting the egg on RR on the 14th of May, then opened it wider a few days later and posted pics of the widened egg here on the 19th, and remarked on RR that you pulled it out on June 2nd to check out its pattern and commented on its markings, here you said it crawled out of its egg and you put it back.. I don't see the joke.

You first posted images of it being cut on May 14th and it has taken until now for it to leave its egg so I'm going to guess that you cut it around Day 30 or shortly thereafter - well before it was ready. It was so early that color hadn't developed and most who commented on the pics (including yourself) thought it was a superform. If you didn't recognize the lack of color as being a result of early cutting, I'd also go so far as to wager that you don't routinely cut this early. I'm glad your baby made it, but you could very easily have lost it through infection or premature evacuation. Keepers who are considering breeding their snakes may see threads like this and wind up needlessly endangering the lives of their own hatchlings.

I'm not looking for confrontation but you're not even willing to divulge how far into development this egg was when you cut it which tells me that what you've done is something controversial among breeders. I hope all of your hatchlings cope as well as the one featured here did but I also hope that others don't try to follow suit.

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You first posted about cutting the egg on RR on the 14th of May, then opened it wider a few days later and posted pics of the widened egg here on the 19th, and remarked on RR that you pulled it out on June 2nd to check out its pattern and commented on its markings, here you said it crawled out of its egg and you put it back.. I don't see the joke.

You first posted images of it being cut on May 14th and it has taken until now for it to leave its egg so I'm going to guess that you cut it around Day 30 or shortly thereafter - well before it was ready. It was so early that color hadn't developed and most who commented on the pics (including yourself) thought it was a superform. If you didn't recognize the lack of color as being a result of early cutting, I'd also go so far as to wager that you don't routinely cut this early. I'm glad your baby made it, but you could very easily have lost it through infection or premature evacuation. Keepers who are considering breeding their snakes may see threads like this and wind up needlessly endangering the lives of their own hatchlings.

I'm not looking for confrontation but you're not even willing to divulge how far into development this egg was when you cut it which tells me that what you've done is something controversial among breeders. I hope all of your hatchlings cope as well as the one featured here did but I also hope that others don't try to follow suit.

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Dude, If you go to the boi you will find way more people to talk$ about.. I love reading the noobs posts. You guys crack me up!

You make me laugh I have been breding reptiles since 1989
So I don't know what to tell you . My babys usually come out at day 52 to day 55 and the pic taken the other day was like day 64 (but don't jump on my a@% if I'm a day off ....I'm at the flyers game ) and yes I tend to cut at day thirty and I know all about color change and all and I said I doubt it was the super but nobody knows what it will look like ..... question how many eggs did you produce last year and how many did you lose....
Out of several hundred babys I lost one due to its heart on the outside....
So enough said ....... back to something more important!
Go Flyers

I was gonna say how you can safely pull a baby out and sex it but I don't want someone's pantys to get in a bunch......lol

Oh boy... this is gonna get good.

I personally don't see a point in cutting at day 30 if they don't come out until day 52-55! I think its not worth the risk of causing harm to the snakes for ONLY your pleasure! I personally would never buy from a breeder with these practices!

While I don't agree with cutting the eggs at day 30, I also don't agree with cutting them at day 55. The little guys come out on their own, eventually. That being said, it's all about whatever works for you and obviously, it works for the OP. I seriously doubt he would put a potentially expensive offspring at risk if he had bad luck in the past.

IMO, the egg was cut too early, but I'm pretty sure people would be surprised how many large breeders cut at day 40 (and some under). I'm glad it's doing fine though, good luck with the little guy. :)

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I personally don't see a point in cutting at day 30 if they don't come out until day 52-55! I think its not worth the risk of causing harm to the snakes for ONLY your pleasure! I personally would never buy from a breeder with these practices!

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I would buy from a breeder that cut at day 2 if they cared for there snakes and didn't sell bad hatchlings. There's a lot more people with a lot more experience who have had success.

And besides he/she didn't come here for your opinion on cutting, your opinion on sharing the pics.

Thanks for the pics, please don't be discouraged. We all love seeing pics of new snakes! P.s. That thing is freakin gorgeous!

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I would buy from a breeder that cut at day 2 if they cared for there snakes and didn't sell bad hatchlings. There's a lot more people with a lot more experience who have had success.

And besides he/she didn't come here for your opinion on cutting, your opinion on sharing the pics.

Thanks for the pics, please don't be discouraged. We all love seeing pics of new snakes! P.s. That thing is freakin gorgeous!

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I'm afraid I'll have to agree.

This thing obviously survived after being cut open on day 30 something, survived being dumped out, put back in, and is still thriving how many days later? This guy is experienced and if what he says is true about not loosing any babies from his practices, how can anyone say what he does is wrong? What's the basis? Sure it's just impatience, but if that's what he does, that's what he does. If he kills babies, what does that matter to any of us?

Regardless, this is a matter of what you feel comfortable with, not what you think other people should do. I would never cut on day 30 something because I'm not comfortable with it, not because it will kill the baby (I know there are many other big breeders that cut around day 35), but because I don't know how to keep them alive and well for that many days. It's impatient to cut the eggs at day 53 or after the first one pips, but no one says anything about that. It's a matter of what people are comfortable with. Simple as that.

Anyway, I'm off my soapbox. Congrats OP and just remember everyone on here thinks their way is the best and ONLY way. I think you already know that though.