Need help on getting a skinny, baby Burm to eat!

At the reptile sanctuary, there is this small albino Burm, about a foot and a half to two feet long, that is fairly skinny and won't eat for me. I fed the baby Burms last week and this week. This baby did not take anything that was given. Keep in mind these baby Burms came from the Texas seizure.

I tried F/T, live, and assist feeding but he isn't taking anything. I asked to take him home to see if I can get him to start eating, and they said I could try and see what happens. So I set him up in a 15qt tub.

Originally he was in a 34qt with another Burm which had a lot of room so I'm guessing a large amount of stress has to be in this. His temps are about 88F on the warm end. He's got a UTH with a thermostat and I'm reading the temps off of a digital thermometer. I have him on cypress mulch with a fair sized water dish he can fit into and a hide he can curl up in. His humidity is about 60%+.

So, I don't normally ask for help on problem feeders because I've been through that and know what to do, but this is a bit extreme. I assume it might die, but I'll always give it a try and see if I can help this little guy. I won't be keeping him at all so you all know.

I'll be keeping his weight written down weekly. I haven't recorded it yet but I will in the next few days. He is also a little hisser, very cute LOL.

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I would try the substrate and or tub switch if you haven't ...sometimes I forget to try that and it can be magic. Best of luck on your efforts.

I dont know much about snakes, but i wish you and the burm the best.

Have you tried live...Possibly large pinkys or small hoppers?

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Originally Posted by Vilenica

I would try the substrate and or tub switch if you haven't ...sometimes I forget to try that and it can be magic. Best of luck on your efforts.

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Yes I switched over to a smaller tub for him. He is now in a 15qt with a hide and warm side of 88F in the hide, before he had just substrate and a dish in a big 34qt with another Burm so hopefully the stress of another animal with him and a large enclosure will decrease.

Thank you:) I hope he pulls through. He's active but just so skinny.

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Originally Posted by tjm

I dont know much about snakes, but i wish you and the burm the best.

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Thank you for the kind words:) I would assume he would have eventually died, so I just had to see what I could do.

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Originally Posted by pandp

Have you tried live...Possibly large pinkys or small hoppers?

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All the baby Burms are about his size (not skinny though) and are fed two adult mice (F/T). We tried a live hopper but he just would not go for it. Once he's settled in I'm going to try a rat, just because of the different smell and more nutrients.

:gj::taz::8: lovin it

put him in a dark pillowcase with a live pinky overnight. Also I have found that with some of my stubborn feeders if they wont take rats they will take newborn rabbits.

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Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited

:gj::taz::8: lovin it

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Of course you do LOL, who doesn't?:D

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Originally Posted by Denial

put him in a dark pillowcase with a live pinky overnight. Also I have found that with some of my stubborn feeders if they wont take rats they will take newborn rabbits.

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Will that really work? I haven't had him a week just yet, but I will consider doing so. Next time I get feeders is Sunday, so I'll tell my mom to get a rat pink and I'll do as you said.

Never heard about this way of feeding a non eater, hope it works!:please:

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Originally Posted by Denial

put him in a dark pillowcase with a live pinky overnight. Also I have found that with some of my stubborn feeders if they wont take rats they will take newborn rabbits.

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:O just my input here but you feed newborn rabbits?!I know that snakes have to eat and im fine with adult f/t rabbits but a newborn live baby rabbit? Where do you buy those anyways?

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Originally Posted by toreh

:O just my input here but you feed newborn rabbits?!I know that snakes have to eat and im fine with adult f/t rabbits but a newborn live baby rabbit? Where do you buy those anyways?

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It's the same as feeding an newborn rat or mouse, they are all cute (sort of:P). You can normally get them at reptile stores if they breed rabbits or sell F/T ones.

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Originally Posted by toreh

:O just my input here but you feed newborn rabbits?!I know that snakes have to eat and im fine with adult f/t rabbits but a newborn live baby rabbit? Where do you buy those anyways?

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We have a rabbit breeder that we go to. And he calls me as soon as a litter is born and I go pick them up. Also if he has any baby rabbits that die when born he freezes them for me and I get those also. A newborn rabbit isnt much larger then a small rat. Nost of them we gas and freeze because 98 percent of our snakes eat f/t but we do have a few hardheads that will only except live. I love all animals and the rabbits are cute and everything but the breeder I get them from raises all his rabbits for food either snake food, human food or dog food so there just part of the food chain I know it can seem cruel but so can watching a baby snake starve

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Originally Posted by Denial

We have a rabbit breeder that we go to. And he calls me as soon as a litter is born and I go pick them up. Also if he has any baby rabbits that die when born he freezes them for me and I get those also. A newborn rabbit isnt much larger then a small rat. Nost of them we gas and freeze because 98 percent of our snakes eat f/t but we do have a few hardheads that will only except live. I love all animals and the rabbits are cute and everything but the breeder I get them from raises all his rabbits for food either snake food, human food or dog food so there just part of the food chain I know it can seem cruel but so can watching a baby snake starve

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Yes I completely understand that, if I had to choose to let a snake starve or feed a rabbit I would choose to feed the rabbit. Im just a little bit more attached to rabbits than I am rats or mice since I have six and ive raised my own litter before.

Have you tried putting him in newspaper?

Do you have any idea what substrate he was in? not in the Sanctuary, but in the Texas building.

I'm guessing since he was in a neglected place like that, he was probably in newspaper...

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Yes I completely understand that, if I had to choose to let a snake starve or feed a rabbit I would choose to feed the rabbit. Im just a little bit more attached to rabbits than I am rats or mice since I have six and ive raised my own litter before.

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I get attached to the rabbits that have spots or coloring on them. The albino ones with the red eyes and solid white they kinda creep me out a little lol

Sm live rat..

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Originally Posted by Danounet

Have you tried putting him in newspaper?

Do you have any idea what substrate he was in? not in the Sanctuary, but in the Texas building.

I'm guessing since he was in a neglected place like that, he was probably in newspaper...

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Most likely, but I don't think a change in substrate will do much. I think it could have been from all this stress from the seizure to being in a large tub and with being with another Burm. Lotta withs there.

I tried checking the sex of the Burm and is sort of got mad and bit my stomach.. Not sure why some snakes get so mad when you pop em. And I did not do it incorrectly, I've done it so many times I know what to do.

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Originally Posted by Denial

I get attached to the rabbits that have spots or coloring on them. The albino ones with the red eyes and solid white they kinda creep me out a little lol

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LOL me too!!

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Originally Posted by Tim Mead

Sm live rat..

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Thanks, I will definitely try that out :)

I would put him in a small dark container with a rat pup. Leave him someplace undisturbed overnight and see what happens.

iirc, one of the snakebytes videos mentioned the juice from a tuna can (??).

hoping for your success

I had a ball that didn't eat for a long time. I changed it's substrate from newspaper to cypess mulch, and it started eating again for me. I don't know if this would help with the burn, but it's worth a shot. Good luck.

two gloved fingers on the edges of his mouth and open that sucker up and put a sliced head baby rat in there, F/T of course....It's like they go "oh yea those taste good" and they will swallow the rest.

You could also try a chick.

A lot of snakes will whomp birds when nothing else works.