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  • 03-27-2010, 10:09 PM
    RubixCube
    Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    So I looked in Rubi's tub this morning to discover the following in his hide. I'm guessing this is a regurge. He's never refused food since I've had him and he ate about a week ago. Why would he do this? I can't figure out how to get the pic up but it was half whiteish/fleshy looking.

    Also he seems to have diarrhea (which I also have a pic of). I'm going to collect his stool and take him to the vet on Monday unless there's one open tomorrow. He's had bowel movements several times this week but they seemed normal.

    PS: If anyone can tell me how to put the pics up from my computer that would be extremely helpful.
  • 03-27-2010, 10:14 PM
    dr del
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Hi,

    Well the first thing is to get them hosted somewhere online.

    You can put them in your gallery here - this tutorial is a bit old but the basic procedure is the same I think.

    And here is another one in video form that might also help.

    You can also use a site like http://photobucket.com/

    They should also have tutorials to help you.

    If you still have trouble just ask any member of staff and we will do our best to get you sorted. :gj:


    dr del
  • 03-27-2010, 11:21 PM
    RubixCube
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    okay here's the regurge: https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...gurgitate.jpeg

    and the diarrhea: https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/3/poopy.jpeg

    There's a veterinary teaching hospital in my hometown so I called them and they said to bring him in tomorrow but it will cost like $200...anything for my baby.
  • 03-27-2010, 11:37 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    both look like regular poop to me...
  • 03-27-2010, 11:43 PM
    RubixCube
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    The "regurge" is about 6 in long and an inch wide and very mucous-y. The white doesn't look like the uric acid stones that usually accompany his poops. Is it okay for him to not have solid stools? The second picture is definitely not solid at all and is not like his normal poops. I'm also concerned that it's been a week since I fed him and for him just now to regurgitate his food...isn't this abnormal?
  • 03-27-2010, 11:46 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RubixCube View Post
    The "regurge" is about 6 in long and an inch wide and very mucous-y. The white doesn't look like the uric acid stones that usually accompany his poops. Is it okay for him to not have solid stools? The second picture is definitely not solid at all and is not like his normal poops. I'm also concerned that it's been a week since I fed him and for him just now to regurgitate his food...isn't this abnormal?

    I can guarantee you it is not a regurge.

    The "acid stones" you are describing are urates. They are pee. The brown turd is poop and the white gooey stuff is mouse fur.

    Is the "diarrhea" liquidy or does it stick together?
  • 03-27-2010, 11:46 PM
    Patricia
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    That white one doesn't look like poop to me, it looks like a full mouse! :O
  • 03-27-2010, 11:49 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    there is an easy way to tell if youve had a regurge... what did it smell like when you opened the tub? Poop or death?
  • 03-27-2010, 11:51 PM
    RubixCube
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I can guarantee you it is not a regurge.

    The "acid stones" you are describing are urates. They are pee. The brown turd is poop and the white gooey stuff is mouse fur.

    Is the "diarrhea" liquidy or does it stick together?


    It sticks together but his normal ones are usually harder. And the white stuff is definitely gooey. He's never had a bowel movement with the white gooey stuff before though.
  • 03-27-2010, 11:52 PM
    RubixCube
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    there is an easy way to tell if youve had a regurge... what did it smell like when you opened the tub? Poop or death?

    DEATH! or at least not how his poop normally smells lol.
  • 03-27-2010, 11:54 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RubixCube View Post
    It sticks together but his normal ones are usually harder. And the white stuff is definitely gooey. He's never had a bowel movement with the white gooey stuff before though.

    Diarrhea is very obvious. It is liquidy and usually smeared all over the cage. if it was just a little softer than usual, it is not diarrhea.

    How long have you had your snake? My snakes will sometimes only poo hair once every few months, having regular turd poos in between.
  • 03-28-2010, 12:04 AM
    RubixCube
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Okay that makes sense then if he's never done it for me. I've had him for almost a year. I thought it would be weird for him to regurgitate a week after feeding. I still might take him in along with a stool sample just for peace of mind. I think I'll wait until Monday so I can take him to a vet as opposed to going tomorrow to emergency care.
  • 03-28-2010, 12:06 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    A regurg happening after a week is pretty much impossible. The food should be out of the stomach after 2 or 3 days depending on temperatures.

    If his poo was extra mushy, doing a fecal isn't a bad idea. No need for a $200 vet appointment.
  • 03-28-2010, 12:08 AM
    dr del
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Hi,

    What are the temps in his enclosure?

    Can you get any closer/ clearer pics of the "regurge" stuff?

    As long as the temps were ok I probably wouldn't be too quick to drop $200 just to visit the vet. :O

    [unconnected rant]
    I went to the vet teaching hospital near me and they spent most of the time trying to teach the students things that were unrelated to the reason I was concerned and wanting to order all the latest ( horrifically expensive ) tests.

    I won't lie - being told an x-ray, anaethesia, possible biopsy, and two nights of housing was an essential part of the process of diagnosing a respiratory infection made me use words that would get me kicked off this site. :rolleyes:

    In the end I paid for a basic consult, picked up the snake and went somewhere else. :taz:

    Call me a typically tight Scotsman but when you are using me and mine for teaching and experimentation/ practice you pay me not the other way about. :P
    [/unconnected rant]

    Ahem... sorry got a little sidetracked there. :oops:


    dr del
  • 03-28-2010, 12:37 AM
    king216
    Re: Possible regurge and/or diarrhea...HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    hi,

    what are the temps in his enclosure?

    Can you get any closer/ clearer pics of the "regurge" stuff?

    As long as the temps were ok i probably wouldn't be too quick to drop $200 just to visit the vet. :o

    [unconnected rant]
    i went to the vet teaching hospital near me and they spent most of the time trying to teach the students things that were unrelated to the reason i was concerned and wanting to order all the latest ( horrifically expensive ) tests.

    I won't lie - being told an x-ray, anaethesia, possible biopsy, and two nights of housing was an essential part of the process of diagnosing a respiratory infection made me use words that would get me kicked off this site. :rolleyes:

    In the end i paid for a basic consult, picked up the snake and went somewhere else. :taz:

    Call me a typically tight scotsman but when you are using me and mine for teaching and experimentation/ practice you pay me not the other way about. :p
    [/unconnected rant]

    ahem... Sorry got a little sidetracked there. :oops:


    Dr del

    wow! That is messed up
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