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what might these be??????

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  • 03-18-2010, 02:52 PM
    WALTER
    what might these be??????
  • 03-18-2010, 03:01 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: what might these be??????
    Butters ?? :confused:
  • 03-18-2010, 03:02 PM
    250rider
    Re: what might these be??????
    looks like pastel-somethingrather??...do you have pics of the parents?..pretty neat though:gj:
  • 03-18-2010, 03:25 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: what might these be??????
    Yeaaa..... Pictures of parents will help...maybe....
  • 03-18-2010, 03:30 PM
    Matt K
    Re: what might these be??????
    They look like Ruppel line Pastels to me?

    Cheers,
    -Matt
  • 03-18-2010, 05:14 PM
    Pulcher
    Re: what might these be??????
    ruppel pastels have alot more washed out look to them and are more towards the white spectrum.

    They look like jungle pastels to me.
  • 03-18-2010, 05:15 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: what might these be??????
    I'd go with "really nice pastels".
  • 03-18-2010, 05:24 PM
    WALTER
    Re: what might these be??????
  • 03-18-2010, 05:28 PM
    WALTER
    Re: what might these be??????
    Here is dad. Pastel from Corey Woods. Everyone that has seen them in person will say there is something very different about them.


    http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc495/..._122_495lo.JPG
    http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc565/..._122_565lo.JPG
  • 03-18-2010, 05:36 PM
    dreese88
    Re: what might these be??????
    BTW everyone...don't click the pictures, I did and immediately got 2 pop ups including an adult webcam site
  • 03-18-2010, 05:37 PM
    steveboos
    Re: what might these be??????
    Well the dad just looks like a nice yellow pastel, so i have honeslty no idea how they became so washed out and the pattern got so broken.

    I will say for one thing, i dig em!
  • 03-18-2010, 05:45 PM
    WALTER
    Re: what might these be??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreese88 View Post
    BTW everyone...don't click the pictures, I did and immediately got 2 pop ups including an adult webcam site

    SO sorry, image venue sucks for that if I could edit the post I would try and fix it.
  • 03-18-2010, 05:48 PM
    twan
    Re: what might these be??????
    All i wanna know did you put a price on them yet i want one lol.
  • 03-18-2010, 06:04 PM
    dr del
    Re: what might these be??????
    Hi,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WALTER View Post
    SO sorry, image venue sucks for that if I could edit the post I would try and fix it.

    Fixed - if you host the larger pics somewhere else let me know and I will happily edit in the links in the previous posts.


    dr del
  • 03-18-2010, 08:13 PM
    egw006
    Re: what might these be??????
    That's an awesome looking pastel! (if that's all it is) Maybe something going on with that WC normal?
  • 03-18-2010, 08:28 PM
    arcangelmarcos
    Re: what might these be??????
    its an amazing pastel in my opinion !
  • 03-18-2010, 11:02 PM
    Seak
    Re: what might these be??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I'd go with "really nice pastels".

    ^This! :gj:
  • 03-18-2010, 11:17 PM
    snake eyez
    Re: what might these be??????
    looks like a butter or lesser more like a butter
  • 03-18-2010, 11:24 PM
    Matt K
    Re: what might these be??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pulcher View Post
    ruppel pastels have alot more washed out look to them and are more towards the white spectrum.

    They look like jungle pastels to me.

    I'd have to disagree. Perhaps you're thinking of Ruppel line Super Pastels? Ruppel line pastels look...well just like the OP's pictures, not to put too fine of a point on it. I'm not suggesting that those are in fact Ruppel Pastels, but even most Ruppel Pastels I've seen haven't been that washed out, so I'm not sure which you've been seeing? Casey (Lazik) had a super available some time ago, which might be what you're thinking of.

    Cheers,
    -Matt
  • 03-19-2010, 02:21 PM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Re: what might these be??????
    Dis You Try breed the to each other to find how eventually super looks ??
  • 03-19-2010, 02:31 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: what might these be??????
    Could be something new. Looks like mom has something hidden in her. A chance for a "walter" line pastel. :)
  • 03-19-2010, 02:45 PM
    WALTER
    Re: what might these be??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by egw006 View Post
    That's an awesome looking pastel! (if that's all it is) Maybe something going on with that WC normal?

    Was waiting for someone to bring this up. Here are some pics of other offspring that the male produced with different females. Nothing even close to this other group.

    http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc944/..._122_944lo.JPG
    http://img241.imagevenue.com/loc161/..._122_161lo.JPG
    http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc111/..._122_111lo.JPG
    http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc930/..._122_930lo.JPG


    Quote:

    Dis You Try breed the to each other to find how eventually super looks ??
    Been trying and nothing yet. I am hoping this year they will do something.
    They are the most stubborn balls I have ever seen.
  • 03-19-2010, 03:05 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: what might these be??????
    I'll agree with everyone else who stated this: The first ones you posted look like Ruppel pastels. There is a chance there could be something else going on with that female though. I'd suggest breeding a different male to her this year (a cinnamon or something) to see if the offspring from that clutch do something similar.
  • 03-19-2010, 04:21 PM
    Maurice Tebele
    Re: what might these be??????
    id breed him back to his mom! love the wash and blush. the bright yellow on the tip of the head is cool to. hope you have a suddle new morph there.:gj:

    and the new pictures of the other snakes. the top one looks simaler.
  • 03-19-2010, 05:14 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: what might these be??????
    Whatever they are, they're awesome! Good luck trying to further prove them out!
  • 03-19-2010, 07:49 PM
    TnT Reptiles
    Re: what might these be??????
    Those look pretty cool Walter. I would love to see them in person. Maybe you should bring them to the Eras Show since my table is right beside yours. :D
  • 03-22-2010, 03:44 PM
    dreese88
    Re: what might these be??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WALTER View Post
    Was waiting for someone to bring this up. Here are some pics of other offspring that the male produced with different females. Nothing even close to this other group.

    http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc944/..._122_944lo.JPG
    http://img241.imagevenue.com/loc161/..._122_161lo.JPG
    http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc111/..._122_111lo.JPG
    http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc930/..._122_930lo.JPG




    Been trying and nothing yet. I am hoping this year they will do something.
    They are the most stubborn balls I have ever seen.

    Another question that I feel is worth asking. Did you have any kind of issues during incubation? I don't know this for sure, but it seems a whacked out pattern and all that blushing may have come from that.:confuzd:
  • 03-22-2010, 09:23 PM
    Pinoy Pythons
    Re: what might these be??????
    Looks like in between a Ruppel and Sandblast to me. Better yet, if proven new morph, why not call it Walter Line Pastel?:gj:
  • 03-22-2010, 10:15 PM
    Lolo76
    Re: what might these be??????
    They almost look like pewters, but that would be impossible given the parents... I agree the mom has something funky going on, maybe a hidden het gene? They're way cool, whatever they are! :)
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