how many kinds of GTP?

what are the different types of gtp's? I've tried lookin them up but it's not workin for me. all I find is breeders pages. I just want to know the different morphs I guess? not sure if that makes sense to anyone else.. Thanks in advance

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There's only one "type" of GTP - there are different "locales" of GTP's - the locality differences offer up the differences in "paint jobs" There are morph's out there that have taken advantage of a genetic defect - and you get these "designer morph's" which are also locale specific but have speckles or colors, etc. Get the Greg Maxwell book The More Complete Chondro - it offer's up a much more detailed description.

Good luck zeke lol. I have been looking into the same thing with not much luck. If you happen to find some good info please send it to me.

I plan on getting a GTP this summer so I been reading alot the past few weeks.

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Good luck zeke lol. I have been looking into the same thing with not much luck. If you happen to find some good info please send it to me.

I plan on getting a GTP this summer so I been reading alot the past few weeks.

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will do. the book that they mentioned looks good I've see it before but never owned a copy..


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I see no reason to go out and spend $50 on a book. I cant remember but someone has a book thats only $10. It is supposed to be very good but I cant remember the name of it right now.

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I see no reason to go out and spend $50 on a book. I cant remember but someone has a book thats only $10. It is supposed to be very good but I cant remember the name of it right now.

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signalherp.com arboreal boids pamphlet.

Thanks to the Op for typing the question.
Why do they have many diffrent types of GTP and why are some more costly than others?
I dont understand what the diffrences are inbetween all the pics of them.
For example: Biak and Jayapura. What is diffrent about them?
Thanks to everybody who can cure my ignorance.

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Thanks to the Op for typing the question.
Why do they have many diffrent types of GTP and why are some more costly than others?
I dont understand what the diffrences are inbetween all the pics of them.
For example: Biak and Jayapura. What is diffrent about them?
Thanks to everybody who can cure my ignorance.

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the types are just where they are from, the island they are from or the area on the mainland, look at a map. they are all gtps and without papers to prove the animals was picked up from that island/area or papers proving the parents were from that island/area, the locale people sell them as means nothing anyways. so don't worry about it.

besides canary gtps which are from the Kofiau Island, the rest are pretty much even in price, canary is worth more because they stay yellow for quite a few years, but they do turn green eventually.

pricing mostly depends on the parents theat made the babies and also people put a higher value most of the time on red babies. people can be looking for high yellows, high whites, tri-color, blue line, super blue, melanistic/mite phase and thats just off the top of my head. there are also albino gtps but I don't think any have been offered for sale yet, I would expect 50K+ for one tho.

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besides canary gtps which are from the Kofiau Island, the rest are pretty much even in price, canary is worth more because they stay yellow for quite a few years, but they do turn green.

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I dont think they all turn green I have a friend that has a pair that is over 6 years old and still yellow. I dont think they are going to change.

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I dont think they all turn green I have a friend that has a pair that is over 6 years old and still yellow. I dont think they are going to change.

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they will, 10 years seems to be the average I've seen, but I havn't seen that many, nor do I think there are many that are that old, never herd of ones staying yellow 12+ years.

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they will, 10 years seems to be the average I've seen, but I havn't seen that many, nor do I think there are many that are that old, never herd of ones staying yellow 12+ years.

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10 years? Based on what information? With the excedtion of a very few animals imported here and there, the majority of imports were brought in between 5 and 6 years ago. The first CBB Canaries were being produced about 3 years ago. Most of the animals that came in were in the 200-400 gram range. I don't know of a single breeder that can accurately say how old their imported Kaufias are. To say all will turn green is an inaccurate statement. Do the majority of them turn? Yes, somewhere between 500-800 grams. At this size their age would be 2-4 years old. Until ALL of them have turned green, the statement is absolutely false.

Another interesting thing about this locale is their ability to shift from yellow to green and back to yellow on a daily basis. I witnessed this in a small adult male I had back in 2003, a couple of years before they were being imported in numbers. At the time, I knew I had something different, but didn't know the locale.

My friends were imported as sub adults in 05 and both are still yellow. The male has a small green spot on his head the female has none that I have seen. I would also like to know where you came up with the 10 year thing.

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10 years? Based on what information? With the excedtion of a very few animals imported here and there, the majority of imports were brought in between 5 and 6 years ago. The first CBB Canaries were being produced about 3 years ago. Most of the animals that came in were in the 200-400 gram range. I don't know of a single breeder that can accurately say how old their imported Kaufias are. To say all will turn green is an inaccurate statement. Do the majority of them turn? Yes, somewhere between 500-800 grams. At this size their age would be 2-4 years old. Until ALL of them have turned green, the statement is absolutely false.

Another interesting thing about this locale is their ability to shift from yellow to green and back to yellow on a daily basis. I witnessed this in a small adult male I had back in 2003, a couple of years before they were being imported in numbers. At the time, I knew I had something different, but didn't know the locale.

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http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/topic/13069?page=1

quick 20 second search of carnary turning green. problem is I read alot of info on these forums but can never find the thread after word, but there was a thread with a few people showing animals they claimed to be 8 9 10 years old and finally turning green. I would figured that to be an average and call 12 a safe number

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http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/topic/13069?page=1

quick 20 second search of carnary turning green. problem is I read alot of info on these forums but can never find the thread after word, but there was a thread with a few people showing animals they claimed to be 8 9 10 years old and finally turning green. I would figured that to be an average and call 12 a safe number

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I've read that thread....when it was first posted. The animals posted are between the ages of 2-6. I have been a member of that forum since it's inception and don't ever recall anyone claiming 10-12 year old animals other than the guy that originally imported some years ago. Even then, he claimed all his animals were still yellow. I'd be intersted to see the thread if you find it. Until then, I'd guess the average age of those imported animals would be aound 6-8 by now. Definitely not the 12 you claim to be an average.