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  • 12-21-2009, 11:00 PM
    ralphdp21
    These gene combos make what morphs?
    Pastel Yellow Belly Special
    Pastel Special
    Yellow Belly Lemon Blast
    Lemon Blast Special
    Yellow Belly Lemon Blast Special

    If they don't exist please let me know.
    Thank you.
  • 12-21-2009, 11:06 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    I've never heard of a special before, but a pastel yellowbelly is just that, a yellowbelly that is also a pastel. Yellowbelly lemonblast is a yellowbelly, pinstripe, and a pastel. Lemonblast is a pinstripe and a pastel.
  • 12-21-2009, 11:09 PM
    ralphdp21
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    isnt a special simply a bp with unique patterns, then those patterns are transfered to the new snake thus adding the special gene, thus making them unique and worth more? thats what i was told.
  • 12-21-2009, 11:15 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Snakes with interesting patterns can be considered dinkers and if it is transferred to the offspring the dinker is considered genetic and the breeder usually gives it a special name. I don't think Special is a morph though. Not one that I've seen anyway. Maybe they are saying it has an interesting pattern and therefore it is "special" but unless you see pics of the parents to prove it is genetic, I would just consider it a dinker.
  • 12-21-2009, 11:18 PM
    ralphdp21
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    Snakes with interesting patterns can be considered dinkers and if it is transferred to the offspring the dinker is considered genetic and the breeder usually gives it a special name. I don't think Special is a morph though. Not one that I've seen anyway. Maybe they are saying it has an interesting pattern and therefore it is "special" but unless you see pics of the parents to prove it is genetic, I would just consider it a dinker.

    The special is a co-dominant gene.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/special/

    I guess its new.
  • 12-21-2009, 11:22 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Any pictures of these snakes that are Specials?
  • 12-21-2009, 11:25 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    Any pictures of these snakes that are Specials?

    here are a couple here dont really know what a special is myself tho
  • 12-21-2009, 11:31 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    I can't really tell what makes them Special though. That super pastel just looks like a super pastel to me. Though I'd love to take that crystal home!
  • 12-21-2009, 11:34 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I can't really tell what makes them Special though. That super pastel just looks like a super pastel to me. Though I'd love to take that crystal home!

    dont know but anything that can make a mojave turn into a crystal cant be all bad ;) http://www.jwexotics.com/morphs.html
  • 12-21-2009, 11:39 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    How do you make a crystal, a special and mojave?
  • 12-21-2009, 11:46 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    How do you make a crystal, a special and mojave?

    yes ma'am:gj:
  • 12-22-2009, 07:55 AM
    Python Dreams
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    A Special is a co-dominant gene that when bred to a Mojave produces Crystals. A Special is not all that much out of the ordinary as far as looks go, but will highlight anything it touches and, unlike alot or morphs, Crystals and Specials get better looking with age. The Super Special is insane!:P The Epic is a highlighter morph found in Crystal clutches explained here.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...highlight=Epic

    Epic Pastel Crystal
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261482390
    Special
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481792
    Pastel Special - 666 grams:devilish:
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481939
    Epic Super Pastel Special - 700 grams
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481757
    Special Blast
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261482169
    Super Special
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481883
    Pastel Super Specials (yearling/hatchling)
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481840
  • 12-22-2009, 08:12 AM
    771subliminal
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Python Dreams View Post
    A Special is a co-dominant gene that when bred to a Mojave produces Crystals. A Special is not all that much out of the ordinary as far as looks go, but will highlight anything it touches and, unlike alot or morphs, Crystals and Specials get better looking with age. The Super Special is insane!:P The Epic is a highlighter morph found in Crystal clutches explained here.


    Special
    http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1261481792

    what do you look for to tell the special apart from a normal tho?
  • 12-22-2009, 03:34 PM
    Python Dreams
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    My first clutch of eggs was from Pastel X Special. I didnt know what a Special was at the time and ended up with 0.2 Pastels. One of the Pastels (I held back) was clearly nicer than the other and later proved to be a Pastel Special. Out of the 5 normals, I had one Special, which I called a Halfstel... I joked around about how he tried to be a Pastel, but just couldnt quite make it.;) The reason I told this story was to show that they are easily identifiable in a clutch with normals, but maybe not so much when pictured alone.
    Specials are quite a bit lighter than most normals... Their bellies are white with flaming running up the sides. They usually have blushing up their backs and some cool sort of spotting on top of the head.
    Also, when breeding a Crystal, every hatchling is either a Special or Mojave, which leaves no questions.
  • 12-23-2009, 05:33 AM
    771subliminal
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Python Dreams View Post
    My first clutch of eggs was from Pastel X Special. I didnt know what a Special was at the time and ended up with 0.2 Pastels. One of the Pastels (I held back) was clearly nicer than the other and later proved to be a Pastel Special. Out of the 5 normals, I had one Special, which I called a Halfstel... I joked around about how he tried to be a Pastel, but just couldnt quite make it.;) The reason I told this story was to show that they are easily identifiable in a clutch with normals, but maybe not so much when pictured alone.
    Specials are quite a bit lighter than most normals... Their bellies are white with flaming running up the sides. They usually have blushing up their backs and some cool sort of spotting on top of the head.
    Also, when breeding a Crystal, every hatchling is either a Special or Mojave, which leaves no questions.

    maybe one or two lol how does that work? why wouldnt there be any normals? if it was a super special x normal or mojave bel x normal i get it but not crystal x normal. or is it somehow diff from a bee or spinner?

    *edit* i worded that wrong i know super special x normal wouldnt make mojaves and all you know what i was getting at tho its early LOL
  • 12-23-2009, 12:33 PM
    Python Dreams
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Specials are on the same allele as a Mojave, which makes a Crystal somewhat of a Super. The Crystal cannot reproduce itself when bred to a normal, but every baby is either a Special or Mojave.
  • 12-24-2009, 04:26 AM
    JenEric Reptiles
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    almost like the Platnium Gene? it cant reproduce itself?......BTW thanks for that normal female and the yellow belly .........picked them up from you in vegas.
  • 12-24-2009, 05:54 AM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: These gene combos make what morphs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by phunkyone808 View Post
    almost like the Platnium Gene? it cant reproduce itself?......BTW thanks for that normal female and the yellow belly .........picked them up from you in vegas.

    And did't even wait to say hi to me Eric i see how you are lol
    Tom's Crystal project is just the tops when you think of the potential
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