whats the diffrence

how can you tell whats a butter and whats a lesser. pics if you have any

can anyone help me. i want a butter but dont wanna pay for one and end up with a lesser.

From my experience, the browns in butters are more creamy giving it a slightly brighter look. In that complex the popular opinion seemed to be Mojave,Lesser then Butter in brightness mainly from the browns represented.
Also seems like now from what i've seen at the latest shows lessers and butters are close in price. Butters being not quite as common.

Butter and Lesser are different lines of the same morph, just like Lemon and Bell and BHB and all the other pastel lines. If your really that worried about it, ask the person who produced it, but they are the same thing.

You have to look at the animal your buying and figure out if thats what you like. Just like buying a pastel, people seem to think lemons are the top of the line pastel but I've seen alot of lemons that could pass for normals. the label people put on them means nothing, look at the animal itself.

Nowadays you have no idea what you're buying. So many people have mislabled them over the years to make a sale, you just never know.

Just buy one you like out of either morph. They both do the same thing.:gj:

Here is a pic of my baby butter!!

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../0/8/3/new.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0/8/3/new2.jpg


Sorry I don't have any lesser pics! However to me...and mind you...I have not been doing this very long...I think Lessers are a little bit more subtle in color....a bit more muted. Samantha just had her first shed with us and I swear I think she got brighter in color. Her blushing to me is quite amazing.

thanks for yalls help.

i did some research and i agree with you. the butters have more color in the pics i have seen. i think i know what to look for. i want a butter but now i wanna get both and a mojo.:D

here is a video, its not in english, but it shows you the what makes each special. Just watch, and listen, he will say which is which.

YouTube - Difference of Lesser & Butter

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i did some research and i agree with you. the butters have more color in the pics i have seen. i think i know what to look for. i want a butter but now i wanna get both and a mojo.:D

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The only difference is the butters still cost a few dollars more. Buy the animal you like the best regardless of what made up name is attached to it. The above video shows a great looking butter and an average lesser. You can find butters that look like the lesser in the video and you can also find lessers that look like the butter. Good luck with whichever you decide. Butters/Lessers are the best of the inexpensive morphs you can buy IMO.

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i did some research and i agree with you. the butters have more color in the pics i have seen. i think i know what to look for. i want a butter but now i wanna get both and a mojo.:D

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lol....yea I know what you mean...I want one thing....and then 2 1/2 minutes later I also want.........and so on and so on!! :rolleyes:

I think I am on wallet time out right now until after the holidays are over though...:tears:

Here's my Lesser - I don't think there's anything about him that is duller, muted, less bright or less color than any butter I've seen:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...9/DSC_0176.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...9/DSC_0177.jpg

Like BG and pfan151 said (and my lesser came from pfan151, btw), buy what appeals to you, and don't worry about whether it's a lesser or a butter.

I'll put my lesser up against any butter, any day and say he's just as bright and colorful as they are. I can't wait to see how my boy matures, especially since they get lighter as they mature.

That is a beautiful lesser!!!

Personally I think you see more variances in these two morphs than allot of others. And I probably should have used the word "softer" instead of muted. No put down to those that have lessers!!! Hope I did not come accross like that!

Some seem to turn almost like a greenish....some have their brown stay very chocolate and there yellow stay light like Rabernet (sorry I think I just butchered your name).

As others have said....look around. They really do the same thing and are very very very similar. My original choice was a lesser...that is what I was set on getting. I went to a show...(knew my breeder had a butter) but was not committing to anything. I looked around...saw two lessers and two butters. I liked this paticular butter over the lessers that were available.

I can only hope that she will hold true to her coloring...and not wash out more as she gets older. We will see!!

I've got one for you guys....

If you breed a lesser x butter will you get a super that will produce all of the same snake when bred to a normal?

Or will you have a butter x lesser cross that is not a super, just a double mutation that has the chance of producing normals when bred to a normal?

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I've got one for you guys....

If you breed a lesser x butter will you get a super that will produce all of the same snake when bred to a normal?

Or will you have a butter x lesser cross that is not a super, just a double mutation that has the chance of producing normals when bred to a normal?

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Lesser x butter does produce a super because they are the same exact morph. There would be no way to tell apart a lesser x butters supers babies when bred to a normal.

wow that is a nice lesser. i guess i will look next show and pick what i like the most.

in the ball pythons book from vpi they show the comparison of the two!

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in the ball pythons book from vpi they show the comparison of the two!

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That book was written quite a while ago now. More is known about lessers/butters now than when the book was written. Bottom line is that they are a very variable morph. I could take a comparison pic of two babies from the same clutch and they could look quite different.

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Here is a pic of my baby butter!!

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../0/8/3/new.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0/8/3/new2.jpg


Sorry I don't have any lesser pics! However to me...and mind you...I have not been doing this very long...I think Lessers are a little bit more subtle in color....a bit more muted. Samantha just had her first shed with us and I swear I think she got brighter in color. Her blushing to me is quite amazing.

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/...fe449164c2.jpg

This is a picture of my male Lesser and it just goes to show that there is really no difference it is more just a different name

It's like asking the difference between a phantom and a mystic... ;)

thanks. mike i dont know what a phantom is. i know what a mystic is because i have seen pics of the mystic potion. if yall have not notice i'm a new to this and have lots of questions. any advice about breeding will be well apriciated.

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thanks. mike i dont know what a phantom is. i know what a mystic is because i have seen pics of the mystic potion. if yall have not notice i'm a new to this and have lots of questions. any advice about breeding will be well apriciated.

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Phantom is a different line of Mystic :banana:

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/...fe449164c2.jpg

This is a picture of my male Lesser and it just goes to show that there is really no difference it is more just a different name

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I think when Samantha gets older they should be friends...:rolleyes:

I don't know... I agree that they are the same exact morph but as far as differences go there is usually a difference that can be seen with the adults, the babies not so much but you can see it as they mature. Plus if you look at a Butter Daddy compared to a Platty you can really notice a difference. This is just something I have noticed over the years. Same morph with slight differences, and yes I do think a Butter can look like a Lesser and a Lesser can look like a Butter until they get older. Here is a quote from RDR.

"The Butter is very similar in appearance to a "Lesser Platty"........BUT..........the Butters have more yellow coloration in their patterns. The yellow becomes stronger as they mature, where the Lesser's yellow becomes " less" as they mature."