My First Breeders! (Pic happy! lol)

I figured this would be the best place to post pics of the start of my breeding collection. Here are the new boys, enjoy! :)

Sid (Spider Male from Breeders Circle, Thanks Jonathan!)
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(One of his first meals and he did great! You can see him flexing it down like a pro haha)
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(Now he's looking for some place to hide and digest his meal hehe)
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Nanner (High Contrast Albino Male from Breeders Circle, Thanks Jonathan!)
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Chubz (Het Albino Male from Breeders Circle. You're the best Jonathan! lol)
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(Sid and Chubz)
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I'll get more pics of Chubz and Nanner when they're eating their next meal! :)

Can't wait to get these guys their future girls! Haha

I hope everyone liked the pics! Feel free to comment!

Congrats on your new snakes, but I need to ask, why is it that you got a het albino MALE if you already have an albino MALE? I dont understand :confused:

Because the het is for a different breeding project later down the road. Still not sure what we'll pair him with but it's nice to have him. Lol.
We're working on getting our 09 females right now... :)
Our albino will be paired with a spider and our male spider will have a couple blonde pastel girls.

Not to mention the het was pretty much given to me by Jonathan so I couldn't pass that up. :P

Your albino looks a little wrinkly to me but that is just me. Awsome Snakes nevertheless!:D

My Albino also has a wrinkly effect to him also, especially when it shed. It will go away over time and as he grows, but as a baby it always looks weird.

Yes, he is shedding. He's only wrinkly around his neck where he's getting a bad shed. I have to moisten him up a bit to help him out. :p

New pics from today! :D

Nanner -
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Enki after after shed -
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Sid in shed -
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Chubz -
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Mojave Male that will arrive on Tuesday! (No name yet) -
http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/x...i/mojave-1.jpg
(Picture from the sellers site)

Enjoy! :D

You might want to consider getting females first, then get your males 1 year after and they will be ready to go at the same time in the future. And also you should really bump that humidity up a lot going by the pic of that snake in shed. Baby snakes should be able to shed in 1 piece, and yours looke like the head shed out and the shed broke off. Nice snakes though. =)

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Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME

You might want to consider getting females first, then get your males 1 year after and they will be ready to go at the same time in the future. And also you should really bump that humidity up a lot going by the pic of that snake in shed. Baby snakes should be able to shed in 1 piece, and yours looke like the head shed out and the shed broke off. Nice snakes though. =)

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I agree. That snake looks way to dry and wrinky. I always bump the humidity way up during shed (Usually by placing a damp paper towel or wash cloth in the hide). It makes sheds quick and easy! You need some girls too! Nice snakes though!

I bump the humidity to 75% when they're shedding. It's not exactly wrinkly...kinda like chub rolls. Lol. I was told not to worry about it cuz it's really common for albies. :)

I also have some cinny and pastel girls on order. :D

No more guys though, I'm focusing on the gals. Looking really hard for a super pastel!

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

I bump the humidity to 75% when they're shedding. It's not exactly wrinkly...kinda like chub rolls. Lol. I was told not to worry about it cuz it's really common for albies. :)

I also have some cinny and pastel girls on order. :D

No more guys though, I'm focusing on the gals. Looking really hard for a super pastel!

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I was refering to the picture of the spider in shed, not the albino. He looks really dried out.

Be sure to post some pics of the cinny and pastel girls! I have a male/female Mojo on hold til after the holidays!

misread. running on two hours of sleep ugh

But yeah, he started going in full shed last night when I was working graveyard. I came home and bumped the humidity up right when I was taking the pics this morning, he looked horrible! Now he's hugging the damp paper towel I put in there. I'll post new pics when he fully sheds. :)

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

I bump the humidity to 75% when they're shedding. It's not exactly wrinkly...kinda like chub rolls. Lol. I was told not to worry about it cuz it's really common for albies. :)

I also have some cinny and pastel girls on order. :D

No more guys though, I'm focusing on the gals. Looking really hard for a super pastel!

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Yea that is not in shed he was trying to shed and the head broke off from the rest. If he dont get it off same day you need to soak him and assist getting it off.

Also if your misting non stop and it drys out fast, this will result in bad sheds even if its 75% while hes shedding. How are they setup, tubs or tanks.

Yeah I know what I need to do when he has a bad shed I've had snakes for years, thanks.

40+ quart tubs...I think they might be 41 quarts. I also changed the substrate from the stuff I used for my kingsnakes(used to be t-rex sani-chips). Changed it about...2-3 days ago?

It has bigger grains/chips, not like sawdusty sani-chips. It doesn't hold in moisture as much and has been keeping the humidity a lot more stable. This stuff makes it so I only have to mist once a day, if even that. I lay newspaper on the bottom of the viv then lay the substrate on top so I can scoop up the substrate by grabbing the ends of the newspaper, blah, blah, blah. Lol.

Any more questions?

I could hardly keep him still. Had to let him explore a bit and get the energy out. :D

Sorry for the crappy quality, I only had my boyfriends camera phone handy

After his soak and shed:
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He looks great!

Haha, thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

Because the het is for a different breeding project later down the road. Still not sure what we'll pair him with but it's nice to have him. Lol.
We're working on getting our 09 females right now... :)
Our albino will be paired with a spider and our male spider will have a couple blonde pastel girls.

Not to mention the het was pretty much given to me by Jonathan so I couldn't pass that up. :P

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i still dont get it, why use a het male when you have a visual male? one male can be ran threw several females no problem at all.

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

Yeah I know what I need to do when he has a bad shed I've had snakes for years, thanks.

40+ quart tubs...I think they might be 41 quarts. I also changed the substrate from the stuff I used for my kingsnakes(used to be t-rex sani-chips). Changed it about...2-3 days ago?

It has bigger grains/chips, not like sawdusty sani-chips. It doesn't hold in moisture as much and has been keeping the humidity a lot more stable. This stuff makes it so I only have to mist once a day, if even that. I lay newspaper on the bottom of the viv then lay the substrate on top so I can scoop up the substrate by grabbing the ends of the newspaper, blah, blah, blah. Lol.

Any more questions?

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You're keeping babies in 41 quart tubs? Oi.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but given prior posts here and elsewhere I get the feeling you've not had snakes that long. You're 17 after all, and thought WC meant West Coast and that ticks on CB animals is normal. The best thing you can do as a future breeder is to listen and learn. And then read and learn some more. There is a wealth of info here, and a lot of helpful folks.

Best of luck though. I do hope you're quarantining all these new additions away from one another.

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i still dont get it, why use a het male when you have a visual male? one male can be ran threw several females no problem at all.

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The het is my sisters pet, I've already cleared that up.

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The het is my sisters pet, I've already cleared that up.

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sorry in which post did you mention that?

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

I bump the humidity to 75% when they're shedding. It's not exactly wrinkly...kinda like chub rolls. Lol. I was told not to worry about it cuz it's really common for albies. :)

I also have some cinny and pastel girls on order. :D

No more guys though, I'm focusing on the gals. Looking really hard for a super pastel!

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Who ever told you not to worry about snakes in that condition are full of it. And if you are bumping your hum up to 75 while they are shedding then theres something wrong. I dont even have to go above the 60s and I have perfect sheds everytime. That snake is way too dry. Looks like he was supposed to shed a while ago but couldnt now it is officially a stuck shed. Soak him in warm water and see if he can get it himself. As for whoever told you thats common for babies they are _______. Well I will let you fill in the blank. Out of the 40 snakes I have 80% of which I bought as babies on top of the few I hatched out myself I have never seen one like that unless humidity was too low.

Also just to let you know you should really take the pic of that spider off of your site. I know its still 2 1/2 or 3 years before you will have anything available on there but I personally would not buy from someone with a pic like that on their site. It reflects poorly on your husbandry.

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Originally Posted by Shadera

You're keeping babies in 41 quart tubs? Oi.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but given prior posts here and elsewhere I get the feeling you've not had snakes that long. You're 17 after all, and thought WC meant West Coast and that ticks on CB animals is normal. The best thing you can do as a future breeder is to listen and learn. And then read and learn some more.

Best of luck though. I do hope you're quarantining all these new additions away from one another.

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When did I say I thought WC meant West Coast? I said I live on the west coast and people here have ticks all over their animals. I've actually turned in one of my local pet stores for not tending to their so called "healthy" animals that they kept outside and let get ticks. I know that WC means wild caught and that wild caught animals can have ticks. Read the whole thread before you say something else stupid, thanks.

They are in separate enclosures and I've had CB snakes since I was 7. Like I said on this thread, I've had kingsnakes. Not only that but when I was little I caught local garter snakes and gopher snakes just to observe them for an hour or two and release them.

I learned all I know from professional breeders over the past few years that I've also been breeding bearded dragons. So thanks for your concern but maybe you need to do a bit more research yourself. I'll take my information from a well known professional breeder over yours any time. :D

Oh and just because I'm 17 doesn't mean I'm not educated with reptiles. My whole family helps with my reptiles and is also educated with them. But again, thanks for your concern and Merry Christmas.

Bye BP.net

Just by the way you talk and the way your website looks it looks like your just in it for the money.

Also Spider to Albino produce Spider Het Bino,AND Het Bino. You don't automatically get Spider Binos with breeding a Spider to Bino.

Boy do you got a hell lotta learning to do.

Daniel

Money? I haven't even bred ball pythons yet. I just fell in love with a few morphs. My first clutches will most likely just be traded for new morphs.

And I know I'll need a het produced from my spider/albie to make spider albinos. Time isn't a factor for me, which is why I'm not in it for the money LOL

It's a hobby to me, just like breeding my dragons.

And on the spider bino note I mentioned that "it will take a while though" on my site.

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

When did I say I thought WC meant West Coast? I said I live on the west coast and people here have ticks all over their animals. I've actually turned in one of my local pet stores for not tending to their so called "healthy" animals that they kept outside and let get ticks. I know that WC means wild caught and that wild caught animals can have ticks. Read the whole thread before you say something else stupid, thanks.

They are in separate enclosures and I've had CB snakes since I was 7. Like I said on this thread, I've had kingsnakes. Not only that but when I was little I caught local garter snakes and gopher snakes just to observe them for an hour or two and release them.

I learned all I know from professional breeders over the past few years that I've also been breeding bearded dragons. So thanks for your concern but maybe you need to do a bit more research yourself. I'll take my information from a well known professional breeder over yours any time. :D

Oh and just because I'm 17 doesn't mean I'm not educated with reptiles. My whole family helps with my reptiles and is also educated with them. But again, thanks for your concern and Merry Christmas.

Bye BP.net

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Ah yes. That teenager "I know it all and don't you DARE question me" attitude. Gotta love it. Reminds me why I chose not to have kids. :gj: You got a long way to go, kid.

Again, did I ever say I wasn't open to learn? Where are you making these assumptions? Really.

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

Money? I haven't even bred ball pythons yet. I just fell in love with a few morphs. My first clutches will most likely just be traded for new morphs.

And I know I'll need a het produced from my spider/albie to make spider albinos. Time isn't a factor for me, which is why I'm not in it for the money LOL

It's a hobby to me, just like breeding my dragons.

And on the spider bino note I mentioned that "it will take a while though" on my site.

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Lol ok. Go read the site, I corrected everything and I barely knew how to. Had to ask my boyfriend cuz he was the one that made it (He said sorry for the mistake) he's the one more in to bearded dragons.

And it also says "hets" under the breeder list, go look at that. He must have forgot to say they'd be hets on the "Available" page

(And thanks for pointing that out, neither of us knew there were any mistakes)

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Originally Posted by Omnomnami

And it also says "hets" under the breeder list, go look at that. He must have forgot to say they'd be hets on the "Available" page

(And thanks for pointing that out, neither of us knew there were any mistakes)

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you also need to fix your caresheets bps dont need anything to climb on and almost all bps are not imports

The care sheets are posted from another site. I just thought I'd leave it there for people who would want to "decorate"

I'll fix the import part, it must be an old care sheet

Better yet, I just posted a message on the top of the page and that care sheet will be removed to make way for another :p

http://www.zompherpz.com/care-sheets.html