Breeding with balls who usually have hides.

Hi,

This is my first year of breeding, and yesterday I had introduced my male Mojave to my female Normal, but the male totally freaked out and spend the hours in there trying to escape. a.e. trying to find an opening in the tub.

Now when he is housed in his own tub, he has a hide which he frequently uses,
but in the tub with the female there is just newspaper and a waterbowl.

He weighs 545 grams, is 14 months old, and she is 1600 grams and 3 years old.

Any pointers?

Cheers from the Netherlands

Are you 100% sure they are sexed right? If they are then just keep trying.

yeah i just introduced my spider and my albino. they had hides and now they dont, except they seem relatively interested in each other. they at least just coil up together. i introduced them together about 16 hours ago. no copulation yet.

i had a young spider male that freaked out like that during his first two breeding attempts but from the third pairing and on he blossomed into the stud that he now is.

i would say keep trying him but if it continues to stress him out too much then let him mature a bit longer.

Thanks, He's just gone into shed so I've removed him from the female and the tub and put him back into his own enclusure.

I will try again next week, and keep trying for 3 days on, 3 days off-periods.

Thanks for the help!

greets,

Yaron

I asked a similar question (regarding the hides) when I first introduced my pair, and nobody had a definitive answer. So I tried it both ways, and noticed that Mona got particularly agitated without the hide... since each of them did have hides before mating, they both looked uncomfortable in the empty tub. I ended up making a new - bigger - hide from a small litter pan, so they could fit easily inside and still get their "lovin" on. ;) I found them copulating within hours of adding this new hide, so I guess it's working fine!

All I can say is to keep introducing them, and maybe he'll get more interested over time? My boy (pastel) is only ~550g and a year old (maybe younger), and got down to business really fast... so I don't think size/age matters, but some are ready sooner than others it seems. Could also have been the impending shed that bothered your boy, since many snakes get cranky during that time. Good luck! :oops:

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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Me too.

I use no hides at all except with hatchlings, and sometimes get this same response, but he usually settles down fairly quickly.
Most of my males seem to like to be out, so it's fairly normal for them to protest getting shoved into a strange tub :P

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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So, would you recommend I/we do that too? I wasn't sure, and just had to rely on the snake's reactions...

you wait. Its still a bit early yet.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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I usually do this. But my mojave girl wasn't showing any interest until I paired them with her hide in the tub. Then she locked right up, but in the hide of course. I guess she just wanted more privacy.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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That's what I do as well - no hides in the female's tubs during breeding season. Those that are usually shy will just get under the paper and make their own hides.

i have a similar question. Both my big girl and spider male have the same type of hide. All my snaked have hides. When i start to put the male in the female's tub should i remove the females hides?

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Originally Posted by reptidude1

i have a similar question. Both my big girl and spider male have the same type of hide. All my snaked have hides. When i start to put the male in the female's tub should i remove the females hides?

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I do.

Thanks for the Replies guys, I'll keep you updated on my progress.
Upcoming Sunday is Snakeday in the Netherlands and I'll be adding animals to my collection.

Including a pair of 100% het pieds and a Spider DH Ghost and Axantic :D

Greets,

Yaron

I usually remove hides when pairing my snakes. I find the hides just give them a reason to avaiod each other.

I have a male Black Pastel that thrashes around and acts like a tough guy when introduced to the females then overnight he usually locks them up. Just boys being boys;)

Your young spider will get the idea after a few visits. I find the real young males dont lock for very long and I usually never catch them in the act but know they locked because I get eggs.:gj:

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Thanks for the Replies guys, I'll keep you updated on my progress.
Upcoming Sunday is Snakeday in the Netherlands and I'll be adding animals to my collection.

Including a pair of 100% het pieds and a Spider DH Ghost and Axantic :D

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Wow, those should be some exciting additions! :gj: I loved the Netherlands when I visited, btw... spent just a week there (Amsterdam & countryside on the way to Belgium), but I've been wanting to go back ever since. Beautiful place with some awfully friendly people. :)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Most of my snakes have hides, during breeding season I remove the hides in the female's tubs which is where the pairing occur.

Once breeding season is over the females get their hides back.

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When you put the males back to their cages (still during breeding season), do they still have hides?

ja dan doe je toch iets niet goed????:D

I use no hides at all in my tubs except for hatchlings that have a hard time starting.
No issues with snakes freaking out because there is no hide, no issues with non eaters, and breeding like champs.

The tub is a hide :)

I know this is my first year doing this, but when I paired my two together, I left everything the way it normally was--hides and all. They seemed to have no problem gettin' busy. Unless I start having problems with it, I'm going to leave the hides in the tubs.

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Originally Posted by Eventide

I know this is my first year doing this, but when I paired my two together, I left everything the way it normally was--hides and all. They seemed to have no problem gettin' busy. Unless I start having problems with it, I'm going to leave the hides in the tubs.

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It's all about what works for you.
If it works, and they breed, then don't change a thing.
If it doesn't work, then switch it up and find what does :)