Lesser male or female woma?

I have enough money to buy either, I've found two good examples of both. I was leaning toward the woma female. Not a lot of people are working with them and I like some of the combos(will def get a male lesser to breed to her at some point).

Or I could save up for a lesser female but I think lessers are going to drop quite a lot over the next year. I can't quite make up my mind.

Rest of collection is in my sig.

I think the low number of people working with Womas has to do with the Pearl.

And yes Lessers are going to constantly drop in prices, everyone wants them, either for the extremely low chance they can get a platty daddy or for getting a BEL. Personally I can't wait to see a Lesser Fire.

But if you dont mind avoiding making supers or if you think you may be able to pull the woma far enough away from the line to make a pearl that will thrive, then go for it.

well.. honestly it depends on what combos you want to work with, and whose poop you want to clean up for the next 30 some odd years.

Not all womas are the "hidden gene" womas that NERD works with. As per discussions on reptile radio, they are actually two different morphs (woma type 1 and woma type 2 or something). So unless you're buying a verified "hidden gene type woma" you wont get the crazy woma combos that NERD has. Not that the non HG womas don't make beautiful combos though.

Personally? I prefer lessers MUCH more to womas. Womas just don't do it for me. Which do you like better

Well honestly if it were me I would get the Lesser male unless the Woma is a hidden gene Woma.

Get a female woma, she'll take longer to get up to breeding size. Male lessers will be cheap and available, and always get cheaper.

So you need a nerd woma to make one of these: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

what would a non-nerd one look like?

I found one:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=142040

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Originally Posted by euphuistical

what would a non-nerd one look like?

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A woma with lesser coloring.

Looks like you already have a couple of mojaves. Go with the Woma. Depends on what your plans are. Mojaves produce similar outcomes to lessers when crossed with stuff. If you want to make a clean Bel, the lesser will really brighten it up. But to me thats no worth the decision as it seams like super mojaves are getting more popular.

If I recall correctly, the Soulsucker is the lesser-hidden gene woma, where as the one you want is made with a regular woma. (Infact it says so right on that linked page.)

Personally? I would go with the woma, and will be doing so if I have any sort of snake funds left over next year. If the lesser-woma is what you're after, you could save up for a lesser male while she's growing up, too.

"The '09 Lessers below are from the Saving Grace Reptiles line and known for high yellow pigmentation!"

True, false? Just marketing?

Anyway, female lesser, 90g, for $400 shipped for SGR line, or 350 for the non-SGR one, which looks just as nice as a hatchling.

Or $265 for a 250g woma female, non NERD line.


I did find a guy claiming he was selling nerd WOMAs, he was only asking 400. That seems a little cheap, eh? Anyway, I am not getting it, just thought I'd mention it since someone said it was quite expensive.

Anyway, I am debating between the the female lesser or the non-NERD woma . I kinda like the idea of working with a morph that is a little more uncommon like the woma.

How much "better" would it be to have a female lesser compared to a male lesser? That is what it comes down to. If having the female is a lot better I think I'll go with that. If a male is just about as good I am going to woma town.

It depends on what you want to do with it. If you want BELs then you have Mojaves of both sexes so sex doesn't matter. Personally I found getting a male Lesser to be most handy, but that's because I have 2 females to breed him to. So it really depends on what you want.

All Lessers are from the Platty Daddy line, so which lesser you get probably doesn't matter, select one based on what it looks like and how much you like it.

If you want to work wit the Woma line then the NERD line is definitely the best to work with, and get it straight from them.

But really, go with what you want.

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

And yes Lessers are going to constantly drop in prices, everyone wants them, either for the extremely low chance they can get a platty daddy or for getting a BEL. Personally I can't wait to see a Lesser Fire.

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the "daddy" gene is carried by the normal looking siblings, not the lessers themselves. If they lessers carried the gene they'd display it an be Platinums rather than just lessers.

Just because a woma was bought from Nerd does not guarantee it to be carrying the hidden gene. Anyone claiming to be selling NERD womas for $400 are selling the line without the hidden gene.

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Some hidden gene woma stuff here...

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=97216

I went with a SGR line lesser. I was talking to the seller about it. But apparently they sold all their normal lessers and this year they only have hets and visuals, so the only SGR lessers are from people who bought them a season before. I changed my mind and went with a SGR one after seeing the difference in a slightly older male.

And as we all know, color sells. But if you just compare this girl to the one I linked before this one has just a ton more yellow and is way more likely to keep it and start having some nice yellow come through the blushing.

I did end up buying a SGR one, here is a pic from the auction:

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/IMG_4029.jpg

Really nice reduced pattern on her. I wanted #13 but someone is making payments on her, . But no complaints about this girl. Great blushing and some really nice patterning, some alien head stuff on the front and really reduced and banded towards the back. Can't wait for her.


Let me know what ya think and what I should breed her to down the line!

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

the "daddy" gene is carried by the normal looking siblings, not the lessers themselves. If they lessers carried the gene they'd display it an be Platinums rather than just lessers.

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Hence me saying that it's an extremely low chance to get one. Word on the street is people have managed to get Platty Daddys by breeding their lesser to a normal, it's a very very unlikely situation, but Ralph mentioned it in his last video.

And that female is brilliant, I'd love to see her make some babies.

Id buy the woma, hidden gene or not.

Looks like it's too late.

I have lessers (adult and babies) and I also have a woma male.

I prefer lessers, there is no doubt in that. But the woma makes cool stuff too. There is no way you had a HG woma for 400. You could have a NERD line woma, but not a HG. Nerd only sold 2 HG woma, one was a female I think and the other one went to GHI, and the babies I saw were priced way higher than 400$.

I still suggest you to go with the woma. 1st, it's a female, 2nd they make awesome combos. Your best bet, would be to get a lesser female.