Woma hidden gene

Do all womas have the hidden gene or only nerds line???

NERD has two woma lines they work with, one has the hidden gene and the other does not.

There is actually only 1 line of woma, it is believed that the origional woma was bred to a special female and those babies are the ones with the "special" gene.

Womas on their own do not have the special gene, and the ones with the gene seem to look pretty normal as the gene is a suttle one.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

There is actually only 1 line of woma, it is believed that the origional woma was bred to a special female and those babies are the ones with the "special" gene.

Womas on their own do not have the special gene, and the ones with the gene seem to look pretty normal as the gene is a suttle one.

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Hmmm if its a combo and you can't tell a hidden gene from a regular woma wonder how they can sell them with all certainty that it carries the gene..

Hidden gene's intrigue me to no end

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

There is actually only 1 line of woma, it is believed that the origional woma was bred to a special female and those babies are the ones with the "special" gene.

Womas on their own do not have the special gene, and the ones with the gene seem to look pretty normal as the gene is a suttle one.

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When questioned on Reptile Radio about the inferno Keven went on to talk about the hidden woma gene. He was the one who stated they have two lines...so I dunno :confused:

Not doubting your statement but just wanted to put out there where I got my information from.

so all the combos are made from gene or any reg woma will do , meaning the the lesser woma

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

NERD has two woma lines they work with, one has the hidden gene and the other does not.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

There is actually only 1 line of woma, it is believed that the origional woma was bred to a special female and those babies are the ones with the "special" gene.

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I would guess you are both correct, but the word "line" is rather ambiguous.

As is evidenced in these 2 posts, it can refer to everything descended from the original morph, or it could also refer to a much smaller subset.

The best example of this that I know of is in corn snakes. Abbott's okeetees are very well known, and I don't think anyone would dispute that they deserve to be considered a separate line. However, I've heard that most if not all of Lee Abbott's founding stock was selected from the Love line of okeetees. Okeetee itself is just a line of normals that came from a region that tended to have more brightly colored snakes. So that's 3 different lines (of normals!) that all originated from the same group of WCs.

I have also wondered about how they know if any one particular woma carries the hidden gene. Even if it descended from the hidden gene line, that doesn't guarantee it has the gene. There must be subtle visible differences, but so far I've never heard what those are.

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Originally Posted by ang3l3s

so all the combos are made from gene or any reg woma will do , meaning the the lesser woma

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Some womas have the hidden gene. Some don't. There isn't a ton of information about the hidden gene out there yet, only time and crossing out hidden gene womas will tell.

Hidden gene womas when paired with lessers can make "soul suckers".

Non hidden-gene womas when paired with lessers can only make lesser-womas, which look very different than soul suckers, but are very beautiful in their own right.

agreed.. but a woma lesser pastel comes close dont' u think

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Originally Posted by kc261

I have also wondered about how they know if any one particular woma carries the hidden gene. Even if it descended from the hidden gene line, that doesn't guarantee it has the gene. There must be subtle visible differences, but so far I've never heard what those are.

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IIRC, from the same RR mentioned above, Kevin notes that the hidden gene womas do have a subtle "marker" trait to them but he does not really say what it is.