New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

Zina is so right! There is something noxious about cig smoke - it only takes a little bit and everything stinks of it. I can smell it from a block or more away if the wind is blowing my way.

What is it about tobacco smoke that just stinks so badly? Campfire smoke doesn't offend me.

If someone were to smoke for even a minute in my apartment without me there, and I came home the next day, I guarantee you I would be able to smell it on my sofa, my pillows, my towels. It is that vile.

I am NOT for govt regulating everything. However, there are laws to pick up your dog's poo. There are laws against littering. There are restrictions against wearing perfume in certain places (Dr. Offices, certain work places). I believe the rights of non smokers and freedoms need to be defended every bit as the freedom of smokers.

Cig smoke does NOT only affect the smoker. It affects everyone around them who DOES NOT want to smell and breathe it.

THAT, I feel, is why I don't mind regulations.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

Cigarette smoke doesn't crawl through your door and sneak up into your bed at night.
If I smoke outside of my door, you won't smell it from your apartment. It dissipates into the air. :confused:
Last time I checked, cluttering up the air was legal. We still drive cars...
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Are we going to make it illegal next for people with bad habits to leave something on their counter to mold? Mold spores can cause irritation to the lungs and it's pretty gross. It can make you sick.
But that's legal and there's no restriction on that.
What about somebody who stinks all the time? Are we going to tell them to stand 20 feet from a door? I don't want to smell a bad smell; I'm sure it has negative effects, too.
Nicotine is a drug. It's very addicting. You have to work really hard if you want to quit--and I do. Max and I have decided to try again to quit. but we need help, and it's going to be a long road even with help.
The problem, I agree with another member who said it, is that it's the government sticking their nose where it shouldn't be.
I want to quit, but nobody should be allowed to force or pressure me into it.

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shellie, do you ever read what you write before you post? Do you EVER do anything other than parrot what you've heard or read.

The above is just plain stupid. I guarantee that if you smoked in my front yard, I'd know it. No one wants to force you to quit. However, no matter what you do decide, NO ONE FORCED YOU TO DO ANYTHING. You did it all by your lonesome.

Your habit is loathsome to many of those who do not share it. Be courteous. Your actions reflect on your fellow smokers just as those of stupid reptile keepers reflect on the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

shellie, do you ever read what you write before you post? Do you EVER do anything other than parrot what you've heard or read.

The above is just plain stupid. I guarantee that if you smoked in my front yard, I'd know it. No one wants to force you to quit. However, no matter what you do decide, NO ONE FORCED YOU TO DO ANYTHING. You did it all by your lonesome.

Your habit is loathsome to many of those who do not share it. Be courteous. Your actions reflect on your fellow smokers just as those of stupid reptile keepers reflect on the rest of us.

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Great point about the reptile relation. I think that goes with any hobby, or just certain things people h ave in common. Many people have preconceived notions that might not be true.

Also, my dad always smokes before he goes to bed at night, in the garage. Our basement is connected to the garage, and I can smell it near the door when it is still closed.

That being said, our garage doesnt always smell like cigarette smoke. Its not like all your belongings are going to be stained like tobacco scent forever, or your clothes if someone smokes within 10 feet of you.

I like the bold part as well. Which is why I will never smoke/ become addicted to cigarettes because its something you chose to do.

Shelliebear, if you think smoke just magically dissipates into nothing, you're totally wrong. I used to sit in a third floor office facing the window and when people would go outside on the side of the building to smoke, I would know. Even three floors up, you can see the cloud rising up past the window. Now think if that were an apartment and a non-smoker lives on the second or third floor. If that person were to open a window on that side of the building, or even around the corner of the building depending on which way the wind is blowing, the smoke would absolutely get in their apartment and a non-smoker would be able to smell it for days.

But I think what has not been addressed yet is that they're not talking about regulating ALL smoking outside of ALL buildings in the state. They're saying that in GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, which is housing that the government pays for or provides, you can not smoke within 25 feet of the entrance. OK, so what. The government who owns the housing that you are using government dollars to live in doesn't want you to smoke in front of the door. They want you to be courteous enough to your neighbor to move a few steps away. You don't like the rule, you can move somewhere public where the government isn't paying for you to live and you can stand right in front of the door and blow smoke in peoples faces as they walk out the door for work. That is your right...

shelliebear,

I lived for a while on the bottom floor of a building and I could always smell cigs through the closed window and forget opening it ever.

If you want to smoke in your house go a head no one is stopping you if you want to leave stuff to mould out again go a head if you run a restaurant where your mould effects me guess what the health department will shut it down. Cars have regulations regarding emissions. Are you so lazy that walking 25 feet is SUCH a big problem? It is crazy.

I lived where there were basically no regulations, freedom according to some. They should try it central Africa fun times.

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Originally Posted by m00kfu

$240 saved from smoking, plus the $250 they were already paying for rent. Do apartments really cost more than $490 a month out there? That's enough for a house in most parts of Michigan.

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sorry for bringing this back up but really? only 490 a month? where i live its more live 700-1,700 a month for rent :S depending on if you want a basement apartment/building apartment/or an actual house which is usually anywhere from 1,000 to 1,700.

BTW I live in Canada, ON.

You know, the OP pointed out the massive cost of a ciagrette habit...I can see why the state wouldn't want to pay for someone's house just so they can spend the money on a nicotine addiction.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

shellie, do you ever read what you write before you post? Do you EVER do anything other than parrot what you've heard or read.

The above is just plain stupid. I guarantee that if you smoked in my front yard, I'd know it. No one wants to force you to quit. However, no matter what you do decide, NO ONE FORCED YOU TO DO ANYTHING. You did it all by your lonesome.

Your habit is loathsome to many of those who do not share it. Be courteous. Your actions reflect on your fellow smokers just as those of stupid reptile keepers reflect on the rest of us.

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Can I tell you something?
You're a real jerk.
Look at the infractions you've gotten for being one.
Mr. High and Mighty internet god, who knows everything and opens his mouth to insult people at any time he fancies.
Yeah, LOL, I read what other people said and what I write. Um...so, what, if somebody else already said something, are we no longer allowed to say it ourselves so people know our stand?
I wasn't aware, wilomn. I'm praying for your forgiveness, really. Those who don't obey your trends get punished by your harsh words. Really. It hurts soooo bad.
I didn't say nobody would know it. I said that eventually smoke dissipates into the air, and it doesn't crawl into your bed and strangle you at night.
Get a life. You're not the internet police, and even if there were internet police that existed, no one would allow you to be one. You're a jerk, plain and simple.
And yeah, if I smoked in your yard, you'd know it, because I'm just so stupid I'd knock on your door and stick it up your nose, because cigarettes give cancer with just one puff. Really! :rofl:
And notice it wasn't MY actions that got smoking in trouble. It was people who toss their cigarette butts all over and blow smoke in their kid's faces, which I don't. I have a car ashtray I keep in my purse, and guess where the butts go when I'm done smoking 25 feet away from all entrances? Take a guess.
Stop parroting what your mommy and daddy told you to write on here. It's getting pathetic.

Inknsteel, in WA state you have to be 25 feet away from ALL public entrances. It's been the law for like 2 years ish I think now. It's not just apartments funded by the state.

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Originally Posted by zina10

I just want to say, KUDOS to any and all that at least try to quit or think about it. I do realize how hard it must be.

I'm very glad I've never gotten into it because I see people struggle with it, I've seen them get killed by it. I've seen them keep smoking while it was actively killing them.
Terrible thing.

So to anyone that wants to quit, tries to quit, no matter how many times they've tried and failed and try again. KUDOS ! Don't give up.

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Good post, zina. A doctor friend of mine once said, "If you want to quit, you have to keep trying to quit, even if it kills you." It took me a while to understand his wisdom.

I 'tried' to quit at least five times during my 30 years of smoking, and I can say without hesitation that quitting smoking was the hardest thing I've ever done.

But here's the thing. Now that I've won the war, I can't imagine why I ever smoked those vile things.

And that's the hardest part about quitting - smokers are convinced that they actually 'enjoy' smoking. The truth is that the chemical receptors in the brain fool the pleasure centers into believing that they are being rewarded for smoking. It's all a lie - a lie that one simply can't see until one actually rids oneself of the addiction. There is no one who excels in denial and rationalization like a smoker.

To me, the key to quitting (and deep down, all you smokers know that you - the REAL you - wants to quit. You don't want to see $2000 a year simply vaporize into a pile of ashes. You don't want to cough up nasty phlegm every day.

And most of all...you don't want to wonder how long it will be before the doctor says, "I've got some bad news for you."

It's your right to smoke. It's also your right to kick cigarettes to the curb, where they belong.