New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

[Powerspythons]

Wow, this thread really took off..haha.

Anyways, I stand by my original post..smoking is a habit not an addiction...now, is nicotine an addicting substance, sure. But if it's the nicotine that you crave why not satisfy that craving in such a way as to not put toxic smoke into the air? I mean, you've got chewing and that snuff crap(i think you put it up your nose or something?), which some smokers might argue is gross..and smoking isnt? Then you've got all the gums, patches, losenges, and tons of other crap that were invented specifically for ALL YOU SMOKERS to quit...these products do solve that nicotine addiction..or else they wouldn't exist and the FDA wouldnt allow them..therefore I'll go back to my original statement.. smoking is a habit and for some people its one that just cant seem to be broken..

Also I found this new thing that they've come up with...

http://thesmokelesscigarettes.us/

Anyone know anything about these?

[I<3Dreamsicles]

Wow, this thread really took off..haha.

Anyways, I stand by my original post..smoking is a habit not an addiction...now, is nicotine an addicting substance, sure. But if it's the nicotine that you crave why not satisfy that craving in such a way as to not put toxic smoke into the air? I mean, you've got chewing and that snuff crap(i think you put it up your nose or something?), which some smokers might argue is gross..and smoking isnt? Then you've got all the gums, patches, losenges, and tons of other crap that were invented specifically for ALL YOU SMOKERS to quit...these products do solve that nicotine addiction..or else they wouldn't exist and the FDA wouldnt allow them..therefore I'll go back to my original statement.. smoking is a habit and for some people its one that just cant seem to be broken..

Also I found this new thing that they've come up with...

http://thesmokelesscigarettes.us/

Anyone know anything about these?

what the heck. snuff. never even heard of that but yeah lets snort tobacco sounds like a good idea to me.

i know snus is basically dip that you dont have to spit out. and they also have the electronic cigarettes and all that crap like you mentioned.

I honestly think most people just dont want to quit.

[SpiffyYoshi]

It's disgusting though. I can't stand when people smoke around me/smell like cigarette smoke. Makes me gag. If you want to subtract decades from your life don't drag me into it.

[Powerspythons]

what the heck. snuff. never even heard of that but yeah lets snort tobacco sounds like a good idea to me.

i know snus is basically dip that you dont have to spit out.

haha, yeah idk what I was talkin about...snus is what I meant.

[I<3Dreamsicles]

haha, yeah idk what I was talkin about...snus is what I meant.

theres snuff too. and snus.

snuff i guess is like fine tobacco that you snort. weird but it was on wikipedia...

I had to check just incase lol.

[stratus_020202]

Also I found this new thing that they've come up with...

http://thesmokelesscigarettes.us/

Anyone know anything about these?

Yes, I have one of these. It worked really nice for about a week, and then started burning my throat. Not sure what that's about. My problem was that these i could smoke anywhere, cigs I can't/don't. So, when you can puff for hours at a time you don't feel the effects of the nicotine and I started getting cravings again.

That other "quit smoking" things don't work either. They are expensive. More than what I pay. I've heard the best way is cold turkey (my sister). I just can't get past the initial yearning. I keep thinking the best time would be in the morning when I wake up. That's close to 8 hrs of non smoking. It should be easy right? But, every morning I get into my routine and go into my smoke room to light up.

I need a support group or something. Like AA, only for smokers. It would be easier if I had a buddy system. I have to be moving all the time, i'm even a roller in my sleep. I light up when I'm bored, or just need to get away from whatever I'm doing. I've tried everything.

[tonkatoyman]

That actually makes a lot of sense. If you want no responsibility you dont want freedom, because its a lot of work just to voice your own opinion let alone fight other peoples opinions if your voting, and spreading the word.

The government taking care of you and making RULES isnt being free. But at the same time if the government doesnt make rules, everyone is free but then you have the conflicts of everyones freedoms such as the smoking one.

But I think the conflicts that could potentially harm others are worth looking at, but wearing a seat belt and a helmet doesnt have any effect on other people, those laws are ridiculous. Its like having caution this coffee is hot labels. Theyre for the people who are to dumb to know that every action has a reaction.

Do you really need someone to tell you that your coffee is hot and can burn you? Same thing for do you really need someone to say that if you dont wear a helmet you could get hurt?

What ever happened to common sense.
wake up, wake up, wake up!

Well said...Very well said. I was going to modify my "Last Post" but instead I will add what i was going to say there here.
Common sense dictates that we enact some laws to prevent people from doing wrong things...this doesn't limit freedom it protects people...the debate is where to draw the line. As long as people accept the responsibility that goes with the right laws are not needed to restrict freedom. So here is what it boils down to in my book regarding the smoking and my last post.
As long as smoking is LEGAL then smokers should be allowed to smoke However they also have the responsibility to recognize it is a hazard to others, and can be an offensive habit, therefor they should not engage in the activity where others are unintentionally involved...
Nonsmokers have the right to breath air free from tobacco, they also have the responsibility not to enter a situation where they find smoking and expect others to quit. It takes both to work.
By the way for those who do act responsibly I Applaud you, smoker and nonsmoker alike. It is when one side says I don't care what is the right thing to do I want what I want that laws have to be written and good people loose their freedom.

[zina10]

Yes, I have one of these. It worked really nice for about a week, and then started burning my throat. Not sure what that's about. My problem was that these i could smoke anywhere, cigs I can't/don't. So, when you can puff for hours at a time you don't feel the effects of the nicotine and I started getting cravings again.

That other "quit smoking" things don't work either. They are expensive. More than what I pay. I've heard the best way is cold turkey (my sister). I just can't get past the initial yearning. I keep thinking the best time would be in the morning when I wake up. That's close to 8 hrs of non smoking. It should be easy right? But, every morning I get into my routine and go into my smoke room to light up.

I need a support group or something. Like AA, only for smokers. It would be easier if I had a buddy system. I have to be moving all the time, i'm even a roller in my sleep. I light up when I'm bored, or just need to get away from whatever I'm doing. I've tried everything.

Kudos for having tried. Even by thinking about it and wanting to quit, you are doing more then many. It IS hard.
Don't give up just because it hasn't worked yet. Perhaps one day you'll find the strength or whatever you need in order to make it work.

[shelliebear]

Cigarette smoke doesn't crawl through your door and sneak up into your bed at night.
If I smoke outside of my door, you won't smell it from your apartment. It dissipates into the air.
Last time I checked, cluttering up the air was legal. We still drive cars...

Are we going to make it illegal next for people with bad habits to leave something on their counter to mold? Mold spores can cause irritation to the lungs and it's pretty gross. It can make you sick.
But that's legal and there's no restriction on that.
What about somebody who stinks all the time? Are we going to tell them to stand 20 feet from a door? I don't want to smell a bad smell; I'm sure it has negative effects, too.
Nicotine is a drug. It's very addicting. You have to work really hard if you want to quit--and I do. Max and I have decided to try again to quit. but we need help, and it's going to be a long road even with help.
The problem, I agree with another member who said it, is that it's the government sticking their nose where it shouldn't be.
I want to quit, but nobody should be allowed to force or pressure me into it.

[shelliebear]

(and i'm struggling really bad right now without smoking as much as i usually do but it's an addiction i don't need)