We all loved Steve Irwin....well do it for him then.

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Originally Posted by zina10

Thanks Jim...

from another military wife and "single" mother (due to endless trips, deployments and hardship tours)

Plus doing it in a "foreign" country ;) My entire family is in Germany. But what doesn't kill one, makes one stronger.

You do get to a point where you weed the "BS" out, because there simply isn't time or energy for it. And you get to read people very well.

I've been mostly quiet on these threads, but I find it hard to believe how some can pull the wool over others eyes. And certain attitudes just really make me sick. And no, its not the much mentioned "BG Sickness" as I don't know that guy from a hole in the ground, nor do I care to.

Its not just what you "do", its also the motive and what one expects in return. And organizations CAN be hurt by being affiliated with the wrong persons, or persons that do nothing but turn others off of it.

Ok, I've said more then I wanted. I know for sure that it does no good to carry this on. There are people with certain and obvious personality disorders, and going on and on with them simply accomplishes nothing. You will never ever get through to them. Literally.

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You are the second woman I've met in the last 2 weeks that is living in the US while their entire family is in Europe. I don't know how you do it. My family is my biggest support group. The other woman is single and has lived here for the last 7 years. Once she gets her green card (or some other paperwork), she'll be able to go home, but that won't occur until next Summer.

Take Care!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by Denial

The internet always brings out the worst in people

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I'm more cynical than you. Most people you see every day, you barely talk to. The internet gives you the opportunity to talk to them, and you find out that a huge number of them are jerks. I don't blame the internet for this, lol.

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Interesting that you're not willing to answer my questions and say that you're going to drop the subject. Then you post 4 additional messages. Which is it Neil? All I'm asking is that you discuss the actions of your newfound friends. I noticed you are pictured twice with the group recognized as the "Cove Guardians". So you are a member of SSC. Please answer my questions? If you want others to respect SSC, please tell us what legal means your group is using and I would really like to know what illegal activities Japan is being accused of.

I can accept a truce, but it's got to be a mutual truce. I'm willing to drop this thread, as long as you do as well.

I do truly respect a group that tries to make a difference in the world, but they must do so within all laws, including the laws of the land. "When in Rome" kinda thing.

Jim Smith

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So now you're begging for BG to continue to be a "fool" and debate with you. 1-800-Doctors may help you.

On a side not, BG has a "picture" with Paul McCartney. Guess BG is the long lost Beatle.:D

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

Well same applies to you as well BG. Sorry had to say it...

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If you'll notice, BG realized that fact.:D

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Originally Posted by Denial

The internet always brings out the worst in people

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Or their true side.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

The ones who have things hidden, yes.

Those who are what you see, use it as a vehicle to achieve.

And some folks simply don't deserve any respect. I know it's rough for you nice people like Elizabeth, but it's the plain and simple truth. We each have our own reckoning systems and filters and experiences that lead us to the point with every person we meet or interact with that demands that we decide firmly how we will act. Some have a default of Benefit of the Doubt, or I Trust everyone until I'm shown I can't and even then I'll probably give them several chances.

Some of us, having been down that road, now no longer travel it much at all.
While you may fault those who do not act as you do or think others should, your point of view is not more valid, just easier for the nice people to accept.

Easier isn't always better.

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It is kinda funny that the people that have actually met BG seem to like him. Then there are those that have their minds are so closed they can't even open them enough to try and get to know him. Sorry you're in that very small group Willy. Since we have mutual friends that like you, BG does give you some hope. That's why he continues with you.

BG will say this though. This is a "cut throat" business. Once you involve the business side of things with snakes, it's a lot harder to stay friends. That's why it seems that none of the "big dogs" seem to get along all that well. This is why BG prefers the average snake breeder.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

There's a thread over on fauna right now the subject of which is BOI posts that go on for hundreds of posts. The OP thinks shorter would be better but the thing that has been repeated pointed out is that sometimes you learn really important things about people and how they really are once you get past the fluff and to the meat, generally many posts into a thread.

Take this one for example. Out the gate, it's not so bad. Down the line a bit, more motive comes to light, more facts come to light, more facts are evident that would not have been had this only been a few posts long.

Like you, others have responsibilities. It may be that most don't recognize the carrying out of these responsibilities but, unlike the OP here, not everyone wants everything they do known by everyone.

I know I make people think. What they think isn't as important as that they do. I'm lucky in that sometimes I can get people to think in unaccustomed ways. While that may seem exactly what I'm dogging Guppy Boy for, it's not and it's doubtful you'll hear of it from me again.

You asked. I answered. Generally I just let these questions go but you seem genuinely interested so you got a genuine answer.

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Willy, of course BG had more than one "motive" with this thread, but then again you helped hack up his old one and had it closed. BG had to do something. You're trying DESPERATELY to do the same thing here.

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Originally Posted by zina10

Thanks Jim...

from another military wife and "single" mother (due to endless trips, deployments and hardship tours)

Plus doing it in a "foreign" country ;) My entire family is in Germany. But what doesn't kill one, makes one stronger.

You do get to a point where you weed the "BS" out, because there simply isn't time or energy for it. And you get to read people very well.

I've been mostly quiet on these threads, but I find it hard to believe how some can pull the wool over others eyes. And certain attitudes just really make me sick. And no, its not the much mentioned "BG Sickness" as I don't know that guy from a hole in the ground, nor do I care to.

Its not just what you "do", its also the motive and what one expects in return. And organizations CAN be hurt by being affiliated with the wrong persons, or persons that do nothing but turn others off of it.

Ok, I've said more then I wanted. I know for sure that it does no good to carry this on. There are people with certain and obvious personality disorders, and going on and on with them simply accomplishes nothing. You will never ever get through to them. Literally.

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Hard as it is to believe Zina, BG will bet you a Candyball male Ball Python(or a normal) that if you ever met him....you would finally "get it" and like the egomaniac. So....you should "care to" meet him in the future.:gj:

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

So now you're begging for BG to continue to be a "fool" and debate with you. 1-800-Doctors may help you.

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Neil, I'm not going to trade barbs with you. If you want to discuss this matter intellectually fine, but please stop trying to bait me into an argument. I'm not going to lower myself to that adolescent level.

I will ask you once more, what national or internation laws has Japan violated?

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

Hard as it is to believe Zina, BG will bet you a Candyball male Ball Python(or a normal) that if you ever met him....you would finally "get it" and like the egomaniac. So....you should "care to" meet him in the future.:gj:

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Care to make that same bet with me? ;)

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Neil, I'm not going to trade barbs with you. If you want to discuss this matter intellectually fine, but please stop trying to bait me into an argument. I'm not going to lower myself to that adolescent level.

I will ask you once more, what national or internation laws has Japan violated?

Jim Smith

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1-800-Doctors.

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Care to make that same bet with me? ;)

Jim Smith

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BG knows who to make a bet with and who not to. He can tell a closed mind when he reads one.:P

Also, BG wouldn't want to meet that shotgun under your pillow/bed/closet/fridge/dresser/rug...or the six guns you carry wherever you go just in case you may come across an animal/BG you want to shoot.:D

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

1-800-Doctors.

BG knows who to make a bet with and who not to. He can tell a closed mind when he reads one.:P

Also, BG wouldn't want to meet that shotgun under your pillow/bed/closet/fridge/dresser/rug...or the six guns you carry wherever you go just in case you may come across an animal/BG you want to shoot.:D

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Come on Neil. Please leave the 1-800-DOCTORS stuff alone. Lets discuss this like two rational adults. I am not trolling for Neil, I want to discuss this matter with facts and leave opinion aside.

What national or international laws have Japan violated in regard to whaling and/or dolphin fishing?

And why would you think I would be carrying a firearm when we met? Furthermore, why would you think you would be in danger if we met?
Have I given any indication that I would be anythiing but cordial?

Could I have possibly met you at Daytona this year, or maybe Hamburg?
I wonder. Maybe we have already met....yes, I do believe we did! But I digress.

Please for the last time, would you agree to discuss this matter as adults with facts?

Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

two rational adults.

Please for the last time,

Jim Smith

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Does anyone see "two rational adults" here? Does anyone see one?:D

Big Gunns has set the line at 10 more "times". So what you guys got?:D

It seems you have been stricken by the dreaded BG OCD.:D It's very common and only has one cure. Turn off the computer. Prove BG wrong Smitty.:D

Aww thank you Jim...not quite w him through the 24 years but at times it sure felt like it. Though I think you give me waaaaaaayyyy to much credit....:rolleyes: Zina I wish you all the luck sister....please let me know if there is anything I can do ....even if you just want to vent to someone that gets it!!;) Feel free to PM me and anytime you need to call....I'm there.


Mike....I dunno...your pretty nice too...lol...(even though you try to play not so...):P

Denial......(totally off topic) where are those pics of your hot lil cobra? She has got to be all grown up.

Ok Im done going off subject...carry on with the debate. I like how it is turning into such a mature discussion...or trying at least...:D

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

Aww thank you Jim...not quite w him through the 24 years but at times it sure felt like it. Though I think you give me waaaaaaayyyy to much credit....:rolleyes: Zina I wish you all the luck sister....please let me know if there is anything I can do ....even if you just want to vent to someone that gets it!!;) Feel free to PM me and anytime you need to call....I'm there.


Mike....I dunno...your pretty nice too...lol...(even though you try to play not so...):P

Denial......(totally off topic) where are those pics of your hot lil cobra? She has got to be all grown up.

Ok Im done going off subject...carry on with the debate. I like how it is turning into such a mature discussion...or trying at least...:D

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Looks more like a bunch of people hijacking Big Gunns thread to him.:taz::taz::taz::taz:;):D