Dumerils Boas are NOT terrestrial

I am a horrible person and get belligerent in debates all the time but I really don't feel that is Dutti's issue. I think it more of a cultural and language barrier. It's really really hard to inflect tone in words especially when the person you are conversing with is from half a world away and English is not their primary language.

That being said, Dutti you have to stop getting defensive the moment someone contradicts your limited experience. When someone who has years of experience in a specific species of snakes tells you that you are making an incorrect statement, it is not an attack on your person but an attempt to help you turn around a husbandry mistake that will lead to the death of your snake. I don't want to make you feel attacked but it feels like you are trolling this forum sometimes with your comments. You might want to take a long hard look at what you are doing and realize your snake's care means more than your pride.

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Originally Posted by SDA

I am a horrible person and get belligerent in debates all the time but I really don't feel that is Dutti's issue. I think it more of a cultural and language barrier. It's really really hard to inflect tone in words especially when the person you are conversing with is from half a world away and English is not their primary language.

That being said, Dutti you have to stop getting defensive the moment someone contradicts your limited experience. When someone who has years of experience in a specific species of snakes tells you that you are making an incorrect statement, it is not an attack on your person but an attempt to help you turn around a husbandry mistake that will lead to the death of your snake. I don't want to make you feel attacked but it feels like you are trolling this forum sometimes with your comments. You might want to take a long hard look at what you are doing and realize your snake's care means more than your pride.

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I disagree with your assessment of the language barrier. The English is just fine, clearly the language is not the issue. there is an issue with needing conflict. Just look at the opening title of this thread. Dumerils Boas are NOT terrestrial. It is an open invitation for conflict, if I ever saw one.

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Originally Posted by Dutti

So there he is enjoying his tree branch

[IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...com/dxmg7l.jpg[/IMG]

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WOWWWW look at your boa!!! So high such a climber. What is that three, four inches.

Well regardless of the reason I am still concerned for the welfare of his animals. Especially knowing he now has a green tree python that looks seriously overfed as well as a bci that has been proven to be overfed time and again. Large stress inducing enclosures with poor heating conditions, insistence on live prey, and power feeding animals is something I get concerned about and no amount of combative behavior is going to make me not concerned.

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Originally Posted by SDA

Well regardless of the reason I am still concerned for the welfare of his animals. Especially knowing he now has a green tree python that looks seriously overfed as well as a bci that has been proven to be overfed time and again. Large stress inducing enclosures with poor heating conditions, insistence on live prey, and power feeding animals is something I get concerned about and no amount of combative behavior is going to make me not concerned.

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I understand your viewpoint. Being concerned makes sense. no amount of concern or education seems to have any effect in this case.

And like the Grinch stole Christmas, I am gonna steal this thread by closing it momentarily so everyone can enjoy their Christmas eve and Christmas day.


This Thread will re-open on the 26th, so go hug a snake & spend time with family and MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all!

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Originally Posted by Dutti

Now i have reported you to the admin. Let us see if they will take action

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Yes... Just spent part of my christmas eve reviewing this entire thread after spending a great day at the coast with my wife.
Deb did the right thing by locking this bickering match down. Personally I think it should not be unlocked andjust let it die.

Secondly any snake can climb if given the chance BUT the question is if it is in the usual normal behavior in their NATURAL habitat? None of our animals live in a natural habitat. I dont care what anyone thinks they built...

On a final note since my email was full of reported post. If you post on a public forum you better open your eyes and thicken your skin. This is not a snowflake haven. If you post on a public forum and cannot control your fingers or keep an open mind then you need to review the TOS for this site.
No one needs to be here and anyone can be removed.
MODs and Admins shouldnt have to babysit but evidently its part of why WE have to be here.
GROW UP EVERYONE!!

I hope everyone enjoyed their Christmas and while I had previously mentioned that this thread would re-open today, I am afraid that it will not be the case, I believe the bickering has gone on for long enough and nothing positive will come out of this at this point.

Now food for the thoughts since I am gonna have the last word here.

There seems to be an history (that’s right by reporting this thread not only have I look at this one but others involving what appeared to be the same individuals)

From time to time we will see new members with VERY limited experience that will either start providing erroneous and sometimes dangerous advice to other or sometime will see new members with limited experience seeking advice but only want to listen to what they want to hear dismissing anything based on experience. When it comes to the later there is only so much we can do, as they say you can lead a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink, so while you can post once or twice to try to get your point across there is NO NEED to turn a thread into a bickering contest, learn to move on, because sometimes it’s just not worth it and you will not win and if the person is really someone you cannot bare simply put them on ignore.

Now for those who come here seeking advice but yet do not want to listen you may want to step back and think, many keepers here have decades and take time out of their day to try to help others become successful keepers, they do not benefit from this, there is nothing for them to gain they just care about the welfare of your animal and want YOU to succeed, so ask yourself if you are not willing to listen to them and want to fight them all the time, “why are you here?”. Of course like for anyone else you may place people on ignore but remember if you place people on ignore and keep going around with the same mindset you will soon find out that no one will answer your threads anymore.

Anyway hopefully this will sink in this time (for ALL of you) and if not I can guarantee future threads being locked as well as infractions being handed as this is not the first time people were ask to let go https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...=1#post2578710.