guess which is which...again, sorry sarin haha

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

It all boils down to the fact that a Fire is a very visable morph to those of us who know anything about BP's. If a member thinks a fire looks like a normal then they have not seen enough normals and fires close up. That top picture, if it is a fire, is a terrible example of a fire and I would not buy it for $50.00 if it was being advertised as a fire.

My fires must be very light, ghostly, greap lip spots/moustache, light skull markings on the head, pied-like railroad tracks along the belly, orange ringers, light colored eyes, overall different body color (more orange or yellow tint) and very clean belly aside from tracks.. etc etc etc..

There is a quite a few very obvious traits that we look for in Fire. How can you the think everyone would be OK with it when someone comes on here to make a pointless thread just to complain about how they think a fire looks like a normal?? They do not. Plus if you only did an image search for "fire" BP's, I'm willing to bet that snake in your top pic is not a fire. Especially with how young it is. Sure it has a slightly lighter head spot but so does my incredibly dark "normal" female. That is actually a "normal" trait. The head spot on a fire will have a very distinct shape to it. My female fire has a pyramid on her head and my male has more of a skull.

So instead of telling us to get over it, look at about 50 more actual fireballs next to different looking "normals".

Even next to the light normals, there is a huge difference.

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Ok Foschi maybe just so you can avoid this happening I will point out where I found your post somewhat offensive.

First paragraph: To those of us who know anything about balls? So what are you saying I don't know anything? And how would you know what I've seen close up? Theres just better ways of wording what you said there, its sounds degrading, and yes I felt like you were trying to make me feel kind of dumb for saying that I think a Fire looks like normal, KIND OF.

Paragraph 3: Well I don't think I need to go too far into that one as to where I could get a little ticked off. Calling my thread pointless. And then saying I'm complaining? See heres the thing, you have to read all the posts. I feel a lot of people don't read threads from the beginning and don't know all that was said and can jump the gun in terms of temper. You can tell how something was intended to be said easily by reading something. Or maybe we can't. Thats why you should remain as neutral as possible in your posts and not say things like that. Maybe you think its harmless, but some might find it offensive(me).


And paragraph 4: Just didn't need to be said. Look at 50 lol? Again assuming I'm an idiot and don't know anything.

I have never even spoken or saw you on this forum before until I made this thread and you go and talk like that...? Just like you said, I'm pretty sure you would have conducted yourself in a different manner in person. That and not for anything, its my opinion. I think Fire have a normal-esque look to them. So do pastels, yellow bellies, sables, and others...All I mean is by "look like" is that you can see where the morph came from. You can still see the normal in a fire, and in a pastel and so on. What you see, and what I see are obviously two conflicting pictures so no need to push your Fire knowledge on me the way you did especially after all the previous posts, or go on the way you did. I'm sorry for flipping out, but after all the other posts its kind of hard to be patient.

If you wanted to talk about how YOU think fires look like nice normals, you could have just posted a thread to ask other peoples opinions, instead of posting a thread like this and calling ALL fires nice normals.

It's all in your approach. If you would have posted a friendly thread saying "Hey, I think fires look like fancy normals, what are your opinions?" people would have been ALOT friendlier.

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Originally Posted by Elise.m

If you wanted to talk about how YOU think fires look like nice normals, you could have just posted a thread to ask other peoples opinions, instead of posting a thread like this and calling ALL fires nice normals.

It's all in your approach. If you would have posted a friendly thread saying "Hey, I think fires look like fancy normals, what are your opinions?" people would have been ALOT friendlier.

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exactly!! it is funny how much his tone is changing though:D
and you stll havent said anything about your avatar?

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

its actually a pic I found on the internet of just fires that I searched.

I personally think fires are slightly over-rated. I love the super, but they really are just a nice looking normal in my opinion thats kinda why I made this thread. But heres the thing, I LOVE normals lol. Its currently all I own, and one pastel male. In no way am I saying this morph is nothing special, but there are a lot of other morphs out there that I think I would rather buy(my opinion). When mixed with the proper morph they really do enhance almost everything about the other gene and create beautiful animals. I'm just saying I'm always seeing fires on kingsnake that just look like normals to me, but regardless of the fact they are indeed fires. I think they can be easy to mix up at a young age. Its weird though, some Fires are absolutely stunning and theres no way you can really mix it up, but a lot do have a normal "looking" appearence and to the novice eye it can be challenging to tell the big difference. I think the adults are a lot easier to tell apart in terms of fires and normals. Pretty hard to mistake the two of them.

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If this is what you are coming off of I'm sorry you misunderstood this. Maybe you thought I was saying fires are nothing special, but I wasn't at all. Over-rated was probably a bad word. And I do always see fires that dont look like how a fire should look and thats why i made this post. Someone pointed a helpful thing out saying there are scammers. I was not aware of this...? I might have posted a scammer pic and wasn't aware. Pretty sure I apologized for all of that too. Again no one reads.

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

exactly!! it is funny how much his tone is changing though:D
and you stll havent said anything about your avatar?

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OHHHHHH!!

IM SOOOO SORRY ABOUT MY AVATARR!!!

HOW CAN I MAKE IT UP TO YOU?!?!

Its just a picture I had on my photobucket and I wasn't aware that its against the rules...If it is thats really lame, I put it on cuz it was a sweet pic thats it...I changed my tone because I'm avoiding further fights. And pointing out how I got offended from a previous post so it doesn't happen again.

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

If this is what you are coming off of I'm sorry you misunderstood this. Maybe you thought I was saying fires are nothing special, but I wasn't at all. Over-rated was probably a bad word. And I do always see fires that dont look like how a fire should look and thats why i made this post. Someone pointed a helpful thing out saying there are scammers. I was not aware of this...? I might have posted a scammer pic and wasn't aware. Pretty sure I apologized for all of that too. Again no one reads.

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why are you dodgeing my post tuff guy? you sat here and told off just about every one on this thread but i give you a liitle poke and you got nothing hilarious:D:D:D:D agian what about your avatar its definitly not a normal and that is all you have, give credit where it is deserved

I have a pastel as well.

That is morph still right?

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

ok so i tried not to post anything but i cant hold my tounge any longer, dsmalex97 the op clearly has some issues, if you had the chance to take a free fire you would definitly take it and think it was awsome, ecpesilly considering the fact you dont have any morphs for that matter, and to try to make a point and use a horrible example and then get mad at everyone whos telling you that you are wrong is really funny, and whats with all the lol's and hahaha and omg's you sound like your a twelve year old girl who got her first cell phone!!! and just to let you know i will not post back on this thread to ANY of you ignorent respones,
and heres a example of a fire that would have been more appropriate for your stupid little game!! and make sure to ask for permission before you use it cause its my snake;) (clearly not a normal)

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...01374_1302.jpg

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heres my post again just in case you missed it

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

why are you dodgeing my post tuff guy? you sat here and told off just about every one on this thread but i give you a liitle poke and you got nothing hilarious:D:D:D:D agian what about your avatar its definitly not a normal and that is all you have, give credit where it is deserved

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Dodging your posts?

What do you think I'm scared of you :rofl:

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

heres my post again just in case you missed it

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looks normalish to me....