He STILL won't eat

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

You mentioned 'the' temp was 72F !?

What temp is that again - the warm , cool or ambient ?


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Oh no no no, that's the ambient!! The heat lamp made the tank way too hot in the high 90s, so I turned it off until I can figure out how to adjust it. The heat mat stays in the 80s, but if that's not right please tell me.


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Originally Posted by FlipsideRuffian

Oh no no no, that's the ambient!! The heat lamp made the tank way too hot in the high 90s, so I turned it off until I can figure out how to adjust it. The heat mat stays in the 80s, but if that's not right please tell me.


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If the warmest surface is under the warm hide and that's 80F then that's fine providing you've used a reliable thermometer..





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Originally Posted by Zincubus

If the warmest surface is under the warm hide and that's 80F then that's fine providing you've used a reliable thermometer..

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Unless I’m missing something here, no 80 for a hot spot temp is not okay! It’s too low and honestly that should be a cool side temp.

Op my first question is how are you measuring that temperature exactly? Because keep in mind there is a difference between ambient and surface temperatures. In order to get an accurate surface temp for your hot spot you need to measure the temp UNDER the substrate where you heat mat is, preferably with a temp gun.

Your hot spot should be around 88-90 for optimal digestion, just make sure the hottest surface your bp can touch does not exceed 92. Again to ensure that I highly advise getting a hold of a temp gun which are fairly inexpensive on amazon.

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Originally Posted by MissterDog

Unless I’m missing something here, no 80 for a hot spot temp is not okay! It’s too low and honestly that should be a cool side temp.

Op my first question is how are you measuring that temperature exactly? Because keep in mind there is a difference between ambient and surface temperatures. In order to get an accurate surface temp for your hot spot you need to measure the temp UNDER the substrate where you heat mat is, preferably with a temp gun.

Your hot spot should be around 88-90 for optimal digestion, just make sure the hottest surface your bp can touch does not exceed 92. Again to ensure that I highly advise getting a hold of a temp gun which are fairly inexpensive on amazon.

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I'm getting confused myself now ..

I'm posting on a Corn snake thread as well as a few others !



Apologies .. of course 80 isnt too bad for a Corn Snake but it isn't close enough to be ok for a Royal !!

I have asked a few times HOW he's measuring these temps and I still don't know the answer .
That's a big concern right there .

That said if he's going on vacation I dare say 80F maybe better than leaving that unregulated bulb pump out crazy temperatures....


I really don't know how this is gonna end up tbh ...


Maybe better leaving it in a local pet store for a couple of weeks - they do snake sitting over there , I presume ?

He could leave it there , have a vacation and sort the set up properly then get the snake back ... sorted !


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Originally Posted by Zincubus

I'm getting confused myself now ..

I'm posting on a Corn snake thread as well as a few others !



Apologies .. of course 80 isnt too bad for a Corn Snake but it isn't close enough to be ok for a Royal !!

I have asked a few times HOW he's measuring these temps and I still don't know the answer .
That's a big concern right there .

That said if he's going on vacation I dare say 80F maybe better than leaving that unregulated bulb pump out crazy temperatures....


I really don't know how this is gonna end up tbh ...


Maybe better leaving it in a local pet store for a couple of weeks - they do snake sitting over there , I presume ?

He could leave it there , have a vacation and sort the set up properly then get the snake back ... sorted !


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Haha I’ve done the same thing before by mistake so no worries :p


OP does have a thermostat for their heatmat so they could adjust the temp HOWEVER I agree the uncertainty of how OP is measuring surface temps is concerning, even more when vacation is limiting options and time for adjustments. Very tricky situation :(

Not entirely sure how much I’d trust a local pet shop for sitting given how most employees are not knowledgeable and could make things worse. That and the possibility of getting mites. It’s another option at least but not without risks. Unless OP could hire a pet sitter familiar/experienced with snakes to look after them?

OP we wish you luck and hope for the best so when you return from vacation you can get everything sorted if you are unable to before leaving.

I have a temp gun to determine surface temps. As for the heat mat, it doesn't stay at 80. Most of the time it is between 82 and 89, and then some. I have my uncle staying home who has snake experience to keep sn eye on him.

This is all too confusing [emoji37]

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I have a temp gun to determine surface temps. As for the heat mat, it doesn't stay at 80. Most of the time it is between 82 and 89, and then some. I have my uncle staying home who has snake experience to keep sn eye on him.

This is all too confusing [emoji37]

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how does your heat may fluctuate? Isn't it on a thermostat? Does it fluctuate because you measure the temp in one spot then you move the temp gun and it changes where the probe sits because of the bubble?

And I'm back! Came home the other night and checked on everyone, all animals are doing just fine. Asriel's been curled up in his log that fits like a turtle shell like you suggested, so that's good. Hopefully the week I've been gone allowed him to chill out for a bit, however I did vacuum today so it may have set him back a bit. I'll allow another few days then I'll try offering again. I turned the lamp back on, the warm side is 80-88 and the cool side is 74-79. The log is on the cool side.

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And I'm back! Came home the other night and checked on everyone, all animals are doing just fine. Asriel's been curled up in his log that fits like a turtle shell like you suggested, so that's good. Hopefully the week I've been gone allowed him to chill out for a bit, however I did vacuum today so it may have set him back a bit. I'll allow another few days then I'll try offering again. I turned the lamp back on, the warm side is 80-88 and the cool side is 74-79. The log is on the cool side.

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When you have a go at feeding try the hairdryer method if you haven't used it in the past [emoji6]


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My guy stopped eating as well. I switched from frozen-thawed to live, and as a matter of fact, he ate 5 live mouse fuzzies this afternoon. He is 22" long 78 grams, and not quite a year old. I wasn't sure if he would eat them all, but he never hesitated. I am now hoping he didn't over-eat. Is that a thing? My previous BP starved herself to death. I never tried live-food with her, (since she was weened on frozen-thawed), which was all I didn't try. I tried force feeding and everything else, but she still refused. I was devastated. Not going to let that happen again! Finding live fuzzies without having to buy in bulks of 50 was a challenge. It is a 50 mile drive to DFW Reptarium in Plano, Tx, but it was well worh it to see my guy eat so hearty. Shout out to DFW Reptarium! Great staff and gorgeous inventory! I wish you all the best! https://i.imgur.com/x1CH3uU.jpg