BP help needed

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Originally Posted by Naraku

They were very unhelpful with my questions. They couldn't even give me a exact date of birth or a stable estimate. Didn't even tell me what he ate when asked just a its young so a few fuzzy livve mice and then move up to hoppers...

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That's certainly not good. I've actually almost ordered from them so I'm glad to hear that before I did. Any reputable breeder should have these kinds of records on hand. Although I personally would have gone with another breeder after hearing that, I'm sorry about your situation. Even my Petco can tell me more about their snakes than that!

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You need to stop assist feeding every week...you should listen to what we are trying to tell you...DO NOT HOLD THE SNAKE AT ALL UNTIL IT IS EATING ON ITS OWN...YOU ARE NOT HELPING AT ALL..THEY CAN GO A LONG TIME WITHOUT FOOD.....PINKYS ARE WAY TO SMALL FOR THE SNAKE....YOU NEED TO STABILIZE THE TEMPS AND LEAVE HIM ALONE UNLESS CLEANING THE CAGE!!!!!!!! ONCE AGAIN NO HANDLING NO ASSIST FEEDING....GET A KITCHEN SCALE AND WEIGH IT AND TRACK THE WEIGHT SO YOU KNOW IF THEY ARE LOSING ANY.....ONCE AGAIN NO HANDLING.NO ASSIST FEEDING

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Originally Posted by Naraku

I'll update you on his cage, but really the only difference is I use newspaper as bedding as he likes to mess about with it to hide sometimes. Like I said I put 3 rather large fake plants in his cage, so it's not nearly as empty as before. Then again I can see them now being a issue with feeding as he climbs the leafs. And on average it's 85-90 only on rare occasions does it go over 90(when I turn off my fan in my room) 90% of the time it's easily 85-90. Keep in mind that's his warm side, he does have a cooler side with his water dish and now the plants. If I notice him bathing to cool down I'll generally lower his temps for him.

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No that is not the only difference, YOUR setup and what I recommended how completely different, with some animal 10 gallons even with fake plants just does not cut it, high fluctuation do not cut it either.

So you can either address the issues and solve the problem or keep doing what you are doing which obviously DOES NOT WORK, bottom line it's up to YOU, you're the one with an issue.

Hatchlings are voracious if they are not it is husbandry related 99% of the time.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

No that is not the only difference, YOUR setup and what I recommended how completely different, with some animal 10 gallons even with fake plants just does not cut it, high fluctuation do not cut it either.

So you can either address the issues and solve the problem or keep doing what you are doing which obviously DOES NOT WORK, bottom line it's up to YOU, you're the one with an issue.

Hatchlings are voracious if they are not it is husbandry related 99% of the time.

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I bought him as a pet, I'm not much into the tubs etc. How do I keep a 6 qt box 88 degrees with a hot spot? Do you have any in mind? Like I've said, I've done a lot of what is recommended but the cage thing. Never kept a snake in anything but a cage.

Have you actually read the advice we have told you how to keep it in the tub...do I need to type it all in bold capital letters for you? And your use to keeping snakes in FISH tanks?hand in face....

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Originally Posted by Naraku

I bought him as a pet, I'm not much into the tubs etc. How do I keep a 6 qt box 88 degrees with a hot spot? Do you have any in mind? Like I've said, I've done a lot of what is recommended but the cage thing. Never kept a snake in anything but a cage.

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It's not a matter of pet or breeder it's a matter of getting this animal to eat on it's own for you. This is not a permanent housing solution this is a temporary one to allow your snake to get back on track, once the animal eats on a regular basis and reaches 150/200 grams you can move it to a 10 gallons tank.

As for how to keep a 6 quarts tub at 88 degree on the hot side, it's the same way than you do with any other enclosure, you place a heat mat under the tub covering no more than 1/3 of the tub and you use a thermostat.

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Originally Posted by Naraku

I bought him as a pet, I'm not much into the tubs etc. How do I keep a 6 qt box 88 degrees with a hot spot? Do you have any in mind? Like I've said, I've done a lot of what is recommended but the cage thing. Never kept a snake in anything but a cage.

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Go get a six quart (or similar size) latch box. They're $2-3 at WalMart or Target. Poke some ventilation holes in the sides or lid.

Remove the cage décor from your tank and push the aspen over to the cool side.

Put the latch box into the tank so that 1/3 of it is over the heat pad. You'll have to adjust the thermostat controlling the heat pad so that the surface temp in the tub is 86-87*F.

Put some aspen into the latch box along with a small hide and water dish.

Put your snake into the box and secure the lid.

For privacy you can cover the latch box with a small hand towel or piece of newspaper.

Colubrids like king snakes, garters, corns, milks, etc. do ok in cages, ball pythons just don't.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Go get a six quart (or similar size) latch box. They're $2-3 at WalMart or Target. Poke some ventilation holes in the sides or lid.

Remove the cage décor from your tank and push the aspen over to the cool side.

Put the latch box into the tank so that 1/3 of it is over the heat pad. You'll have to adjust the thermostat controlling the heat pad so that the surface temp in the tub is 86-87*F.

Put some aspen into the latch box along with a small hide and water dish.

Put your snake into the box and secure the lid.

For privacy you can cover the latch box with a small hand towel or piece of newspaper.

Colubrids like king snakes, garters, corns, milks, etc. do ok in cages, ball pythons just don't.

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Thank you for your kind and informative reply what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by frostysBP

Have you actually read the advice we have told you how to keep it in the tub...do I need to type it all in bold capital letters for you? And your use to keeping snakes in FISH tanks?hand in face....

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There's 0 need to be rude. I'm not a breeder, I like to see my snakes fully.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

It's not a matter of pet or breeder it's a matter of getting this animal to eat on it's own for you. This is not a permanent housing solution this is a temporary one to allow your snake to get back on track, once the animal eats on a regular basis and reaches 150/200 grams you can move it to a 10 gallons tank.

As for how to keep a 6 quarts tub at 88 degree on the hot side, it's the same way than you do with any other enclosure, you place a heat mat under the tub covering no more than 1/3 of the tub and you use a thermostat.

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Thank you, that is more informative. I'll order a thermostat when I get paid, will they only work on specific heat mats or should mine be fine?