big daddy's wholesale

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Allen its no surprise you backed out :rolleyes:.The only real thing i changed was i was bringing a friend whom i trust.You offered plane tickets but sorry i dont fly for anyone :colbert:.I think i know what scared you off this trip.You do not want me talking to the person whom did those tests ;).I tend to think they do not exist or your results come back positive for IBD and you know i would report that bigtime.You know you will be back like you are every night checking this thread :P.See ya next time Allen Belcher AKA IBD man :mad::mad:

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Like I said Joe, I would've backed you up 100% and went with all my photo gear....but no way I'm bringing my camera or anything near that place. Especially with going to Neils, and Brians this fall. I just don't trust it...don't want to pick anything up and possibly spread it.

If you go, and he takes your offer (doubtful after what I've seen), definitely take as many pictures as you can!

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

What an awesome trio!:taz:

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The three scumbag stoppers :8: :8: :8:

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

Like I said Joe, I would've backed you up 100% and went with all my photo gear....but no way I'm bringing my camera or anything near that place. Especially with going to Neils, and Brians this fall. I just don't trust it...don't want to pick anything up and possibly spread it.

If you go, and he takes your offer (doubtful after what I've seen), definitely take as many pictures as you can!

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Andrew i know you would have gone.Well he declined the offer to have me make a visit.I think what scared him was i wanted to meet this person whom did these so called blood tests.I mean if i spoke to that guy and he reaveled the REAL truth to me Allen knows he would be had. :P

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Andrew i know you would have gone.Well he declined the offer to have me make a visit.I think what scared him was i wanted to meet this person whom did these so called blood tests.I mean if i spoke to that guy and he reaveled the REAL truth to me Allen knows he would be had. :P

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Haha, I think it's funny he declined his offer, AND pulled his ad for his Lavendar Albino Fader project :8: I'm glad I took screen shots!

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

Haha, I think it's funny he declined his offer, AND pulled his ad for his Lavendar Albino Fader project :8: I'm glad I took screen shots!

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The ad is back up. It says the photos are new photos post shed.
Are the photos in the link the same as the ones in the screenshot?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=583783

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Originally Posted by SPJ

The ad is back up. It says the photos are new photos post shed.
Are the photos in the link the same as the ones in the screenshot?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=583783

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Yes they are the same pics ;).Once again Allen is lieing to the world :mad:.O by the way HI ALLEN :bye:.I thought you were never coming back to our lovely site :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Originally Posted by SPJ

The ad is back up. It says the photos are new photos post shed.
Are the photos in the link the same as the ones in the screenshot?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=583783

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Look at the dates and judge for yourself ;) Same ad I busted him on last time; same pictures as well. You think some people would be smarted. Must be the water there, or something...
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Old Ad with the false "Fader Lavendar Albino"-
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2/bigdaddy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_2.jpg

New Ad with the false "Fader Lavendar Albino"-
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_4.jpg

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

Look at the dates and judge for yourself ;) Same ad I busted him on last time; same pictures as well. You think some people would be smarted. Must be the water there, or something...
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Old Ad with the false "Fader Lavendar Albino"-
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2/bigdaddy.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_2.jpg

New Ad with the false "Fader Lavendar Albino"-
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bigdaddy_4.jpg

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Now you know Allen is honest :8: :8: :8: :rofl: :rofl:.Some people never learn but we will make sure NO ONE falls for his tricks and lies ;)

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Now you know Allen is honest :8: :8: :8: :rofl: :rofl:.Some people never learn but we will make sure NO ONE falls for his tricks and lies ;)

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Haha. Honestly, what I would like to see pictures of from him, since he claimed to have had them are -

He claimed to have a Fader x Fader going...pictures of the parent fader's would be nice. At that, how are they also Lavendar Albino, or Het Lavendar, homo Fader? That would take quite a while.

Pictures of the "Adult" Lavendar Albino's.

Recent pictures of these "Lavendar" Albino babies. I bet they're white and gold now :rofl:

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

Haha. Honestly, what I would like to see pictures of from him, since he claimed to have had them are -

He claimed to have a Fader x Fader going...pictures of the parent fader's would be nice. At that, how are they also Lavendar Albino, or Het Lavendar, homo Fader? That would take quite a while.

Pictures of the "Adult" Lavendar Albino's.

Recent pictures of these "Lavendar" Albino babies. I bet they're white and gold now :rofl:

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Andrew in order to see the snakes as he sees them you would need his special glasses :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Allen since you were here today could you please address the question on your "fader" breedings ?

He has albino labs now for only $500 each.
I wonder if these are from the same clutch as the fader albino labs that no one is buying?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=594665

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I have 1.1 albino labby burmese pythons these guys are eating mice hoppers and looking good.

Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

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The following was added on 05/15/08
$500.00 each

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Originally Posted by SPJ

He has albino labs now for only $500 each.
I wonder if these are from the same clutch as the fader albino labs that no one is buying?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=594665

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Hmmm could be :P

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Originally Posted by SPJ

He has albino labs now for only $500 each.
I wonder if these are from the same clutch as the fader albino labs that no one is buying?


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=7&de=594665

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Looks like they might even be the same snakes, just the pictures were taken in different light!

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Originally Posted by aaramire

Looks like they might even be the same snakes, just the pictures were taken in different light!

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Now you dont think Allen would do something like that do you :rolleyes: :weirdface :rofl:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Now you dont think Allen would do something like that do you :rolleyes: :weirdface :rofl:

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Oh gosh of course not. Not an upstanding gentleman like Allen.....:rolleye2:

Now Allen has been here the last couple days but leaves no responses here :confused: :confused:.Why not :weirdface:weirdface

I think Allen placed me on his ignore list :tears: :tears: :rofl: :rofl:.

Allen just posted a new ad on KS for some spider morphs, and looks like his husbandry hasn't improved. Check out the water bowl on the right in the first picture of the ad:

"What's the BUZZ all about, Killerbees, Bumblebees, Spiders and Pastels"

I noticed that too...His bedding is newspaper yet he has aspen/pine in the water bowl..:confused:

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Originally Posted by TooManyToys

Allen just posted a new ad on KS for some spider morphs, and looks like his husbandry hasn't improved. Check out the water bowl on the right in the first picture of the ad:

"What's the BUZZ all about, Killerbees, Bumblebees, Spiders and Pastels"

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Thats not shocking :mad:

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Originally Posted by ShawnT

I noticed that too...His bedding is newspaper yet he has aspen/pine in the water bowl..:confused:

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Maybe it was staged :rofl: :rofl:

My god he can not even clean the gunk out of the snakes water bowl BEFORE he takes a pic.Here is a link to the ad,look at the snake on the right in the pic with 3 snakes :mad: :mad:. http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=597526

EWWWW that first pic on the KS page is NASTY looking! those bowls are disgusting!

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Originally Posted by aaramire

EWWWW that first pic on the KS page is NASTY looking! those bowls are disgusting!

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I guess Allen removed this ad :rolleyes:.If i had only took a screen shot of the gunk in that bowl :mad:.

Please remember this site is NOT the BOI. This thread should be used for first hand experiences ONLY. If you just feel the need to vent take it to Fauna.

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

Joe I have an offer for you. I will provide you with plane tickets, Gas money, Hotel accomodations and spending cash for food and such; If you will just come to my facilities bring your camera and come back here and tell truthfully what you saw. If you are worried about dieseases I will even through in cash for new clothes and shoes. All I ask is that you report the facts of what you see. The only catch is that I will have the local animal enforcement officer here to do a report about what they see on the same day as you. That way the stories will be legit and not just simply your word will stand alone, because it will take a real man to admit being wrong publically. If you really want to know the truth then take me up on this opportunity. But if all you want to do is make slanderous statements about me then continue to do as you wish.
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

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Just recently bought a Labby Burm From Allen and I to read alot of horror stories on this man. I called him out and he made it clear that what was said was false. Needless to say I called him again on the phone and told him straight up if I get some BS sent to me I will be sending the junk right back. I took a chance on it all and purchased the labby burm. It arrived next day air at 9:30 am and was packaged better then any other snake I have ever received over the 15 yrs I have been in reptile keeping and breeding. I opened the snake bag up and there was a awsome shiny little male Labby burm which had obviousely been kept at optimum conditions. This snake was not deprived feeding wise or housing wise as he keeps all of his CBB Snakes in breeder racks. I called Allen Personally to thank him and he told me Thx for taking a chance in dealing with him. So this being said I will deal with Allen again with 100% confidence in what Im buying. Know the facts before chopping someones reputation down. As for the pics with snake crap in the bowl supposely, anyone who knows and keeps snakes understand that you can change the water and 5 minutes later they will crap in it. Hope this helps clear things up as I label Allen as a great Breeder and Wholesale distributor A++++

I just love when someone posts their very first post on a thread like this.
starfiredragons- I don't know you from Adam (sorry Adam, lol!) but I do know and trust the people here on this site. Glad things went well for you but I know I wouldn't touch Big Daddy's with a 10 foot pole.

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

I just love when someone posts their very first post on a thread like this.
starfiredragons- I don't know you from Adam (sorry Adam, lol!) but I do know and trust the people here on this site. Glad things went well for you but I know I wouldn't touch Big Daddy's with a 10 foot pole.

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10 foot poles a lil short, ain't it? ;)

I don't really know what to think. I don't know what to assume or judge, especially since I HATE doing either of those things.

Meh. Honestly, I don't know. What if he is a bad one? Well, why is it that you guys just can't leave him be then. Don't buy from him, let everyone know hes bad and they can make their own decisions.

But what if your all WRONG.
I'm not saying you are, and the facts prove that your probably right. But there is still the possibility, no matter what percentage, its there. How bad would you honestly feel if someone came out and said that he did set up everything and he really didn't do anything wrong?

Also. With the whole vet bill thing. What if that snake wasn't quarantined by the purchaser and the disease came from one if their OWN animals?

I wouldn't want to post here either if I was him, cause no matter what he says he'll get spat on.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

I wouldn't want to post here either if I was him, cause no matter what he says he'll get spat on.

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I know your new here, so I suspect you haven't read the fauna thread. If you ever get a chance, might as well. This thread is more of an afterthought compared with what went on at Fauna.

Anybody want to spend $250,000 with Alan?

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=650481

Wait soooo he wants 250K for them but also would like to keep them there at his place so he can continue to breed them....

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Wait soooo he wants 250K for them but also would like to keep them there at his place so he can continue to breed them....

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that wasnt what the ad said!

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Wait soooo he wants 250K for them but also would like to keep them there at his place so he can continue to breed them....

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I actually think he was saying he would continue to breed them for whoever bought them there, instead of moving them somewhere else.

Hi,

Ad has expired or been removed. :(


dr del

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Originally Posted by SecurityStacey

I actually think he was saying he would continue to breed them for whoever bought them there, instead of moving them somewhere else.

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Actually, if I remember right, he was saying he would house them until the end of the season so they wouldn't have to interrupt the process by moving them in the middle of it all.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Ad has expired or been removed. :(


dr del

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It's still there

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=650481

I guess Big Daddy says Ed Clark owes him money.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=124265

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

I guess Big Daddy says Ed Clark owes him money.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=124265

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more drama? :8:

i missed that one bill thanks