Landlord Said the Snakes Gotta Go :(

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Originally Posted by Deborah

You are trying to help someone keeping what makes them happy by encouraging them to use the system plain simple (you can spin it however you want that's what you do) but I guess you are right no shame in that either. :rolleyes:

Let me tell you if I had to lose my animals I would be devastated however I would not use the system to go around it, I would fight legally if I am in my right and I would own to my mistake if my contract stipulated that there were no animals allowed.

If your reasons are legitimate you should know better then encouraging people do do this. Therapy animals are not a group of 40 with the intent to breed.

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emotional therapy animals are any kind of animal that helps you emotionally, there's no limit of how many nor limit on what you can do with them. the legitimacy of my problems are also not based on if I encourage people to have animals that make them happy or not. and excuse me, I didn't know letting someone know if they talked to a therapist and had some problems they could get the animals they loved and cared about legally put as emotional therapy animals so that he could keep some and not have to run into this problem anywhere and everywhere he goes, was such a terrible thing. am I encouraging the fact that this is a way to save everything even if he's had these animals against contract? no. I'm saying that he can get them registered so if he has to move he can keep them.

so instead of telling me why I should be ashamed and trying to put me down. maybe you could ask questions and see what I'm trying to say. because I'm not telling him to go break his leg and get a handicap parking pass like you think I am.

Now, now. Simmer down guys.

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Originally Posted by xanthe

Deborah

I am one of those people with real legitimate reasons. I have border line personality disorder and PTSD. my snakes are the only thing I have that calms me down and makes me feel better. so no. I shouldn't be ashamed. I'm simply telling someone who has a hobby that makes him happy a way to keep that hobby. its not abusing the system. its pretty much getting a license saying you can have the animals because they are beneficial to you and make you happy.

so yeah no, I'm sorry but no I'm not ashamed. I do have real reasons. and you should be the one who's ashamed jumping to conclusions and putting someone else down for having metal disorders and trying to help someone keep something in their life that makes them happy.

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I'm with Deborah on this. She did not diss you and say you don't have issues. She simply said you should be ashamed for encouraging someone to use that as a BS excuse to keep their animals and I agree with her. ESPECIALLY since you claim to seriously have these issues. Considering you have PTSD or whatever you have, you should be fairly upset when someone uses your condition to their benefit.

This is just like people who have handicap parking permits for no reason other than to have to no walk as far parking elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Fraido

Now, now. Simmer down guys.

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no worries, I see that people in this thread are not understanding what I'm trying to say or my intentions behind my suggestion, so I'm pretty much done.

I don't enjoy being put down or talked down to and ganged up on for something that I believe in, something that has helped me, and/or giving someone an option to look into in a time of need. I am not saying people should claim to have mental disorders if they don't, I'm saying if people can register there animals as emotional support animals than they should. the only reason I encourage other people to do so is because I know the joy and comfort they can bring and I think everyone should have something in there life that can do so.
so best of luck to finding a place and being able to keep the animals you enjoy and love [emoji4]

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Originally Posted by xanthe

I am one of those people with real legitimate reasons. I have border line personality disorder and PTSD.

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I should probably stop with tell you to grow up and deal with life. Claiming ptsd is was to wasy and a joke.
Yes I said it.
Do you think I like waking up at all hours of the night or not sleeping at all? Is it a dissorder? Yes. Is it a dissability? No!!!
Let me give you a little peak into the unanswered part of my life....
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...pse6rwltea.jpg
Forget about the 3 direct relatives at are convicted muderers and dealers.

So for you to promote something to work the system is just plain words I cannot post here

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And yes I have carried a copy of that with me for 30+ years

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Claiming ptsd is was to wasy and a joke.

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Excuse me, my husband is a combat veteran with PTSD and I can tell you that it is a disability. PTSD *can* affect the brain in the same way that physical trauma does. Not only does my husband suffer from insomnia and night terrors, but his PTSD has affected his memory (short term and long term -- he can not even remember what he was talking about midway through a sentence), as well as his ability to relate and communicate with people. He takes 15 pills a day (prescribed) for his PTSD symptoms alone -- that is not counting his cracked spine. The VA has actually declared him 100% disabled due to his PTSD. That is not even considering his physical injuries. Severe PTSD is a nightmare. I'm sorry that you've experienced trauma and you have PTSD, but to say that someone else's is not a disability because it doesn't affect you in the same way is wrong.

Take into consideration that everyone's brain chemistry is different, and trauma affects people differently. My cousin watched his father stab his mother to death, and then stab himself, but aside from nightmares, he is a pretty stable person. My husband attacks invisible enemies in our bedroom in the middle of the night and sometimes has episodes that remove him so far from reality that he ends up in psych wards for 8 months at a time.

Not even to mention that PTSD-related psychosis is something that does happen. It has happened to my husband twice since we've been together, and both of these were diagnosed by civilian, VA, and medical doctors.

Thankfully, the law is based upon facts and not emotions. The tenant did not have permission from the landlord to have the snakes. Unless there are extenuating factors, the case is closed and either the snakes, tenant, or both are out of the property.

You dont have to like me, my posts or the truth.
PTSD isnt just a military thing.
Do I think it a joke? Yes
Why? Because there are so many people laying claim to it.
Are there people with real problems? Yes
Do we all have issues? Probably. I know whats in my head that most wouldnt want to see or deal with.
Should we condone fraud? Can you prove its not?

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

You dont have to like me, my posts or the truth.
PTSD isnt just a military thing.
Do I think it a joke? Yes
Why? Because there are so many people laying claim to it.
Are there people with real problems? Yes
Do we all have issues? Probably. I know whats in my head that most wouldnt want to see or deal with.
Should we condone fraud? Can you prove its not?

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I never said it was a military thing, but I dare you to walk into a PTSD inpatient ward at a VA hospital and tell those soldiers who have loaded their friends' dead bodies into bags that PTSD is a "joke" and they need to "grow up". I was not condoning fraud, or even defending OP for saying that she has it. I don't know her. She could be lying. That's not the point. The point is that you are claiming that it's not a disability because it doesn't affect YOU that way. It's not "the truth". It's you making a general statement (a very judgmental and offensive one) based on your personal experience. Your personal experience does not have anything to do with anyone else's PTSD. Is it wrong that people claim it when it's not true? Absolutely. But is it fair for you to say that people who suffer from PTSD -- people who really SUFFER -- need to 'grow up'? No, because brain injuries don't work that way.

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Originally Posted by somnambulant

I never said it was a military thing, but I dare you to walk into a PTSD inpatient ward at a VA hospital and tell those soldiers who have loaded their friends' dead bodies into bags that PTSD is a "joke" and they need to "grow up". I was not condoning fraud, or even defending OP for saying that she has it. I don't know her. She could be lying. That's not the point. The point is that you are claiming that it's not a disability because it doesn't affect YOU that way. It's not "the truth". It's you making a general statement (a very judgmental and offensive one) based on your personal experience. Your personal experience does not have anything to do with anyone else's PTSD. Is it wrong that people claim it when it's not true? Absolutely. But is it fair for you to say that people who suffer from PTSD -- people who really SUFFER -- need to 'grow up'? No, because brain injuries don't work that way.

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I didn't get a chance to serve due to something as sad as hearing loss.
However you and yours are welcome to come to a BBQ and listen to some of the stories my chosen family tells of their times over seas.
And yes it sucks when I have to put a casket in the ground that weighs less that I know my friend did.
I don't post just to post. I live a real life and consist of more than you see here.
So before you ask me to do something somewhere, you should make sure that I haven't already been there and voiced my thoughts.
As far as being offended, Im sorry you feel that way but everything going on in life are not solely about you, including my thoughts.