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Personally I disagree with the statement that they eat and live just fine. When I first got my boy brood when he was 8 months old I never saw a problem, he never shook or twirled and his strikes were always dead on. He just turned 2 in june, his twirling started little after his 1st birthday and now eating is very hard on him. He shakes so much its almost a vibration and even if the rat it touching his face he still misses. He went 4 weeks without food and not for lack of trying he would just get so put off with not being able to get the rat he would just give up.
I'm not against spiders, and I realize some people will never believe there is a problem but I still think its wrong to tell everyone that they are all fine, and Brood is proof even young ones that start out without a visible problem can end up with one. There are lots of spider morphs I would love to own but I never will.
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Re: Are Spiders really *this* weird? [aka OMG...I thought he was dead!]
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Originally Posted by bobbafett
she's a new addition. Shes finally eating for me now, so i was taking her out to handle. Been dying too haha
lol
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Re: Are Spiders really *this* weird? [aka OMG...I thought he was dead!]
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Originally Posted by Valvaren
Personally I disagree with the statement that they eat and live just fine. When I first got my boy brood when he was 8 months old I never saw a problem, he never shook or twirled and his strikes were always dead on. He just turned 2 in june, his twirling started little after his 1st birthday and now eating is very hard on him. He shakes so much its almost a vibration and even if the rat it touching his face he still misses. He went 4 weeks without food and not for lack of trying he would just get so put off with not being able to get the rat he would just give up.
I'm not against spiders, and I realize some people will never believe there is a problem but I still think its wrong to tell everyone that they are all fine, and Brood is proof even young ones that start out without a visible problem can end up with one. There are lots of spider morphs I would love to own but I never will.
I'm on the fence, myself.
Leon is still doing his frantic rambling so I took his climbing tree away in hopes of removing as much 'stimuli' as possible because he almost gets something like OCD going.
He'll start slithering around the branches and through the holes and it's like he can't stop doing it.
I was worried he was sick or my husbandry was off but am now wondering if this isn't more of a neuro issue.
He's been less 'weird' since I took it out.
He just turned 1 [and I assume has hit puberty] and before this summer, he had absolutely no wobbles or other problems at all.
Ozzy, the 7 year old Bee is just a twirling, corkscrewing mess.
He only eats live and his "kills" are so horrid that I can't bear to do more than hold the mouse still until he strikes and then I have to look away or leave the room.
The mice never have an easy death.
I do worry that the day will come for one of them that they can no longer feed properly and I'll have to make a terrible decision.
Unfortunately, Spider genes are in some of the most incredible combos and that's "just how things are".
I'm not a snake breeding expert but if we were talking Dobermanns who were gorgeous animals but had these 'issues', I definitely would not ever use them as breeding stock.
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Originally Posted by Valvaren
Personally I disagree with the statement that they eat and live just fine. When I first got my boy brood when he was 8 months old I never saw a problem, he never shook or twirled and his strikes were always dead on. He just turned 2 in june, his twirling started little after his 1st birthday and now eating is very hard on him. He shakes so much its almost a vibration and even if the rat it touching his face he still misses. He went 4 weeks without food and not for lack of trying he would just get so put off with not being able to get the rat he would just give up.
I'm not against spiders, and I realize some people will never believe there is a problem but I still think its wrong to tell everyone that they are all fine, and Brood is proof even young ones that start out without a visible problem can end up with one. There are lots of spider morphs I would love to own but I never will.
Here we go....
Then don't own any, more for me. There are different degrees of wobble. There are plenty out there that do just fine, or else they wouldn't be around. How many do you know that have starved to death because they couldn't eat? I haven't heard of any. Most people I have seen on here that have spiders, none have a detrimental wobble, and that's a lot of spiders. I think the "train wreck" ones are minority. And there are plenty of other morphs out there that "have a problem", its part of breeding- kinking, duckbill, bug eyes..... They aren't all going to be the same degree of that problem. I wouldn't ever tell anybody not to get one because it could have wobble. This is an arguement that's been around forever. To each their own. Me, I love the spiders and bees. :)
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My only BP is a Spider and sure enough, he definitely has some crazy little quirks. He wobbles slightly at feeding time (or other times hes excited) and even though I haven't found him sleeping upside down, he tries to EAT upside down a lot. :rofl:Honestly, he's about the sweetest little snake ever and I definitely don't regret picking a spider. And he's a fantastic eater. Seriously, if it kind smells like ANY rodent, is close enough in shape/size, and relatively the right temp... he'll tag it voraciously. I can switch between mice and rats no problemo and even though I haven't tried it, I'm 100% positive F/T would be no issue either. He's hissed at me once cause I was messing with him when he was in blue but otherwise he almost seems to enjoy getting out and being handled. :) I love hearing these stories about their wackiness.
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"What's going on in this thre....."
O_o
Y'all are tweakin some weird genes, 's all I can say.
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Re: Are Spiders really *this* weird? [aka OMG...I thought he was dead!]
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Originally Posted by OmNomNom
"What's going on in this thre....."
O_o
Y'all are tweakin some weird genes, 's all I can say.
:P
Every circus needs a clown.
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