List of Morph Issues

Super Lesser's/Super Butter's are not all bugged eyed, last I saw a bigger breeder said about 50% of them have normal eye's.

I produced my first one in November and she is perfect in every way.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Super Lesser's/Super Butter's are not all bugged eyed, last I saw a bigger breeder said about 50% of them have normal eye's.

I produced my first one in November and she is perfect in every way.

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Most of the list is sometimes happens, I've actually never seen a bugged eye one in person, quite a few pictures though.

Can we vote any way to have this stickied so you don't need to search for it. :D

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Originally Posted by BPLuvr

Can we vote any way to have this stickied so you don't need to search for it. :D

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If they do that, have a mod replace the first list with the updated list, so it's up top.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

never herd of that one, or noticed it. Anyone got any input?

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There is a persistent rumor that albino x albino pairings should be avoided due to a higher risk of deformity.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino-breeding

I seem to recall there is also at least one post on RDR's breeding record that documents some deformed babies from an albino x albino pairing.

I think I already said way more than anyone wanted to hear on the subject in the other thread, so I'll leave it at that :P

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

There is a persistent rumor that albino x albino pairings should be avoided due to a higher risk of deformity.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino-breeding

I seem to recall there is also at least one post on RDR's breeding record that documents some deformed babies from an albino x albino pairing.

I think I already said way more than anyone wanted to hear on the subject in the other thread, so I'll leave it at that :P

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Didn't even remember that thread and apparently I posted in it lol. I still agree with you though.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

If they do that, have a mod replace the first list with the updated list, so it's up top.

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is it your intent to include genetically...er, confusing traits as well (not just crosses that often lead to physical deformation)? examples like the toffee being compatible with regular albinos is a morph issue, but only from an investment/phenotype standpoint. I appreciate this sort of quick compendium of known issues, so I'd hate to deviate from what you've compiled, but there is a host of 'morph issues' that don't involve wobbles, viability, or deformities. somehow there seems to be an even greater controversy surrounding those issues than ones that could potentially affect the health of any given clutch, but there you have it.

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Originally Posted by wwmjkd

is it your intent to include genetically...er, confusing traits as well (not just crosses that often lead to physical deformation)? examples like the toffee being compatible with regular albinos is a morph issue, but only from an investment/phenotype standpoint. I appreciate this sort of quick compendium of known issues, so I'd hate to deviate from what you've compiled, but there is a host of 'morph issues' that don't involve wobbles, viability, or deformities. somehow there seems to be an even greater controversy surrounding those issues than ones that could potentially affect the health of any given clutch, but there you have it.

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it is a list of things that are different besides the skin color. I don't see the need to discuss investment issues, since they are temporary. It's about the market more so than the morph.

Albino and toffee sit on the same locus, It's no more of an issue than mojave and lesser or spector and yellow belly. If that's what you were referring to, i have them complied here already http://www.owalreptiles.com/complexes.php