What is every base morph and which lay on the same allele?

Ok I have researched as much as I can, so this is my final list until someone comes forward with more info

*8 Ball Complex*
Cinnamon
Black Pastel

*BEL Complex*
Butter
Mojave
Russo Het Leucistic
Phantom
Mystic
Lesser
Mocha
Special
Daddy Gene

*BlkEL Complex*
Fire
Sulfur

*Superstripe Complex*
Yellow Belly
Goblin
Orange Belly
Spector
Whirlwind
Het Puma
Het Highway

*Pied Complex*
Leopard
Piebald

*Watch List - Unproven complex*
Toffee
Candy

Ultramelanistic
Crider

Calico
Sugar

Het Red Axanthic
Green Pastel

Chocolate
Sable

Coral Glow
Whitesmoke
Banana

Lemonback (BlkEL Complex)

*Dominate Genes*
Congo
Pinstripe
Spider - No Proven Homozygous

*Unproven Domiate Genes*
Champagne
Woma
Desert
Black Head
Epic
Orange Dream
Black Belly
Shatter
Marble
Philistine
Napalm
Reaper
Fader
Black Lace
Granite
Citrus Pastel

*Co-Dom*
Pastel
Lori
Black Opal
Enchi
Vanilla
Hidden Gene Woma
Paint
Spotnose
Red Stripe
Disco
Garcia
Sentinel
Lace
Ghi
Cajun
Huffman

*Recessive*
Albino
Lavender Albino
Caramel Albino
Axanthic (VPI)
Axanthic (TSK)
Axanthic (Jolliff)
Clown
Genetic Stripe
Tri-Stripe
Hypo
Green Ghost
Blue Ghost
Burgundy
Patternless
Orange Crush
Peach
Black Axanthic
Goldfinger
Puzzle
Desert Ghost

Yes there are homozygous spiders... jsut ask brian barcyk! or listen to reptile radio...

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Originally Posted by BrothersRoyal

Yes there are homozygous spiders... jsut ask brian barcyk! or listen to reptile radio...

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your thinking of pinstripe

Ok from my research I think I have a few that may not be on your list. I have been doing lots of research and have spreadsheets upon spreadsheets so hopefully nothing is mixed up.
I don't know anything about the complexes that will have to be my next research because I'm not sure what you are talking about with those, but I can tell you the morph and what gene I think it is from my research.
Recessive morphs
Autumn Gloss
Butterscotch Ghost
?Tiger(Genetic Banded)
Hyper Striper (haven't been able to find much on this at all)
Orange Ghost
Rio
Yellow Ghost

Dominant
Avalanche
Dot
Ember
Josie
Orange Glow
Super Reduced Pattern
?Tiger possible here instead of recessive

Codom
Blonde Pastel
Crystal
Lemon Pastel
Lilly
Madarin pastel
Mahogany
Powerball
Speckled
Sunset

Are these genes recessive, dom, or codom?
Special
Daddy
Orange Belly
Whirlwind
Het Highway
Whitesmoke

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Originally Posted by RemysBalls

Are these genes recessive, dom, or codom?
Special
Daddy
Orange Belly
Whirlwind
Het Highway
Whitesmoke

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AFAIK (read: disclaimer that this is all based on research as well, not years of hands-on experience :rolleyes: )

Special = Allele on the BEL locus; produces crystals when bred to mojaves and has a really wicked super (homozygous) form. Co-dom, but subtle.

Daddy = "Hidden gene" allele on the BEL locus; produces platty daddies, butter daddies, etc., when combined w/other alleles on that locus. Apparently has no visually distinguishable homozygous form (??:confused:??), and does not appear visually distinguishable from a wild-type ...

Orange belly = Gene on the yellowbelly locus. (Variant of yellowbelly ..?) I think it's somehow tied into Ben Siegel's graphite ivory stuff, and I know it's his line of YBs ... He'd be the one to ask on that 'cos I'm not all too sure. Co-dom.

Whirlwind = Another name for specter; on the YB locus. Makes a superstripe when bred to a YB. Co-dom.

Het highway = A new allele on the YB locus. Makes a highway when bred to ... Um ... Something. I'm pretty fuzzy on some of the new superstripe/puma/highway stuff on that locus, as awesome as it is, so maybe someone more in the know can fill in here :confused:

Whitesmoke = Another name for coral glow / banana. Suspected dominant with some sort of sex predilection.

Autumn Gloss - new one to me, interesting thing
Butterscotch Ghost - same thing as a hypo
?Tiger(Genetic Banded) - there are so many genetic reduce/banded lines out there, half of which i don't even think are proven genetic, I just decided not to put any of them on the list, you can still type them in tho.
Hyper Striper - still unproven to my knowledge
Orange Ghost - same as hypo
Rio - this is another new one to me
Yellow Ghost - same as a hypo

Dominant
Avalanche
Dot - i've seen normals that look like this, id like to see more that its proven dominant (a simple clutch picture would do it)
Ember - was waiting to see if it was another het BlkEL snake, but i guess i can add it to the list.
Josie - just saw these guys a couple days ago, i like em
Orange Glow - surprised i forgot these guys, their hot
Super Reduced Pattern
?Tiger possible here instead of recessive

Codom
Blonde Pastel - same as pastel
Crystal - thats a combo
Lemon Pastel - same as pastel
Lilly - only thing I can find on them is their listed co-dom on some sites, i can't find a info or even a picture of one tho
Madarin pastel - im assuming same as pastel
Mahogany - forgot about these guys also, supers the Suma right? or am i getting something else mixed up?
Powerball -super spot nose
Speckled - looks like a line of granite to me? I can only find one picture of a pastel speckled and it barely did anything to the pastel and if its co-dom wheres the homozygous?
Sunset - never proved out

thx for the list tho

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

Orange belly = Gene on the yellowbelly locus. (Variant of yellowbelly ..?) I think it's somehow tied into Ben Siegel's graphite ivory stuff, and I know it's his line of YBs ... He'd be the one to ask on that 'cos I'm not all too sure. Co-dom.

Het highway = A new allele on the YB locus. Makes a highway when bred to ... Um ... Something. I'm pretty fuzzy on some of the new superstripe/puma/highway stuff on that locus, as awesome as it is, so maybe someone more in the know can fill in here :confused:

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you are correct about the orange belly, tho i should apply the same disclaimer lol

bred het highway to yellow belly to make highway

How are buterscotch, orabge, and yellow ghost same as hypo, but blue and green ghost are there own thing? I am slightly confused

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Originally Posted by RemysBalls

How are buterscotch, orabge, and yellow ghost same as hypo, but blue and green ghost are there own thing? I am slightly confused

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because i can breed a orange hypo to a orange hypo and get orange, butterscotch and yellow hypos all in the same clutch. all of them are just the standard hypo

while blue hypo is not compatible, its a different gene, green seems to still be in debate, there seems to be different lines of green hypo... i donno it confusing.