Got these for free today...abandoned....

UPDATE:
The genetic stripe gave up the fight on Saturday and I found him lifeless soaking in his water dish :(
He seemed to be improving after finishing the course of oral baytril and was in blue...
The others are doing well except the 09 pastel female whose symptoms have actually gotten worse. We saw a different vet to get started on injections so I will post updates as time goes on. I'm holding onto the hope that this wasn't a lost cause and that even after the little guys passing, he was comfortable when he did...

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Oh man I'm so sorry. Be comforted by the fact that for the remainder of his life he had a caring home.


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I'm so sorry! :tears: Hopefully the injections will speed up everybody else's recovery. You're doing such a good thing here. *hugs*

Thank you for your kind words. This has been such an emotional and stressful ordeal for me and I want to thank everyone who has been following and supporting me.
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I am sorry to hear he lost the fight. Comfort yourself with the fact you gave him a chance, which was more than he had before.

I am glad you are going the injection route. I know needles are scary, even if they aren't going into you, but I do feel injections are the best way to go with snakes.

I hope those still with you continue to improve, are any eating yet ?

Gale

There's a reason you got these snakes. You were their saving grace. You hit thelottery with the morphs lol but you're still doing a great thing by taking on the financial burden to get care for these snakes. I commend you on what your doing. :gj:

UPDATE:
After two rounds of antibiotics (oral and injections) 28 days of treatment copious vet bills and a heart wrenching few months full of ups and downs...
The Mojave female, lesser male(still wont take prey items) pastel het gs and YB het gs are the only survivors left....

But,

Drumroll please...The lil pastel het gs female took not one, not two, but three weaned rats today!
The YB het gs also took two weaned. I'm on cloud nine (with my fingers still crossed of course) that at least these two will pull through...

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I'm glad there were some survivors and they seem to be doing much better. Thank you for the update. :)

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For reference, all the luck I've had has been based on using these $1.00 dog bowls from Wal-Mart. I've used them with all of my snakes for years.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...om/1031112.jpg

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These particular bowls will scratch the heck out of your snake's back scales. The ones made by Van Ness have smooth finger holds and edges, and won't do that. They're also pretty cheap, just a couple of bucks. They're a bit sturdier than the Walmart bowls, and easier to clean.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...reNessBowl.jpg

Feeding is really a great sign that they're on the mend, I'm glad they're starting to rally!

Wow, from eleven down to four. :( I don't know how you had the strength to do it, I really don't. I would have been a basket case after one or two, but to loose so many after fighting so hard. :tears:

Ok, take a deep breath Gale. On the other hand, the fact that a few of them are eating is wonderful! If they are eating they must be better. I hope these remaining ones continue to improve for you, and make this fight all worthwhile.

Gale

With so many deaths, have you had a necropsy done on any, to confirm the cause?

Oh man that is sad. I can't believe how many weren't able to pull through. They must have been in horrid condition when you got them :(

I wonder if they were abandoned due to somebody knowing they might have a serious issue like I.. I won't say it, but, you should have a nec done on at least one.

I think I read that they were being kept without water. Someone importing snakes from Asia once posted about a problem they can develop in an internal organ that causes delayed death after a dehydration incident. I'm sure the lack of heat and corresponding infections where bad enough but perhaps this hydration issue finished some off that might otherwise have recovered with heat and treatment. Very sad to hear but keep up the good fight with the remainder!

There are many reason these animals died, one is the vet gave them oral antibiotics! These are totally useless which tells me this vet doesn't have a clue how to treat snakes.

Injections are the only way to treat RI's and even that is not guaranteed. Sadly I knew these snakes weren't going to make it as soon as I read oral antibiotics.

Without the proper cultures and the correctly prescribed antibiotics learned from the cultures, these animals didn't stand a chance. This I know from experience, not just from reading a thread on the internet.

My heart goes out to you as I had a vet kill a very expensive and not very sick animal once, never again! Some Vets are really clueless when it comes to reptiles:(

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Were there any further updates on this? Any necropsies or bloodwork or histology done? With all these new cases of paramyxovirus cropping up, it makes me wonder if that wasn't the case here.

Just read this entire thread now. Wow. I would love to hear how the remaining snakes fared. I hope they are all healthy and happy! Kudos to you for taking this on.


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and this is from someone who presumably couldn't afford their house? obviously something is inaccurate or were missing a big detail somewhere...

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The pictures do no justice I completely agree with you. Those snakes would have been sold.


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The woman who gave them to me..After prying for the whole story this is what I've gathered...
Woman A drops off a breeding collection of high end morphs at woman B's house to take care of for whatever reason. Woman A never comes to check on or take care of the snakes. Woman B has no idea how to take care of snakes and out of 40 original snakes only 12 survive 2 mos. At woman B's house. Woman B can't figure out why the snakes are dying (no water or heat) and decides to give away all remaining snakes after woman A says she is unable to take them back...the vet said it took atleast two months for the snakes to decline to the state they are in, so it matches up with this lady's story.
Either way this story is a sad one for the animals involved and I couldn't leave them to suffer after seeing how this woman cared for them.

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Were there any further updates on this? Any necropsies or bloodwork or histology done? With all these new cases of paramyxovirus cropping up, it makes me wonder if that wasn't the case here.

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Just sounds like a case of neglect originally and then the reaming sick ones not getting treated properly...