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Re: What's with people these days?
I can understand being upset about living with a clepto, but other than that, i don't understand what the big deal is. there is obviously no judgement to be made about what someone chooses to do for their amusement - like smoking pot. I think it is terrible that that girl got expelled. I think your degree should not be jeopardized for any reason other than academic unless you are a detriment to those around you.
That girl has every right to sleep with 6 different guys a day, smoke as much weed as she can afford, and still be a member of an academic establishment so long as her marks are at par.
The stealing could have absolutely been dealt with in a manner that would have probably changed the series of events that led to her expulsion. I know, because i lived in dorms and off campus while attending university, and like anyone else, had ppl eat my food, wear my clothes etc.
the social circumstances offered to you at a university are ones that you should learn to deal with effectively for your own good. just like it is socially awkward to steal someone's pudding cup, it is just as socially awkward to not be able to address that instance effectively. I mean if ur fiance put a lock on her door, talked to her roommate in a very serious way - outlined their expectations for and from one another, etc. then i am sure their would have been no expulsion.
I say this because there is more to someone than what they have been up to lately. If i got kicked out of school for smoking weed, who knows if i would be where i am today - i have done things im not proud of, and things i would take back - we all have. imagine if you got fired/expelled/evicted, because ur neighbor or coworker decided to judge you on the mistake you made most recently, and you were prosecuted to the full extent of the law/rule.
just a thought.
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Re: What's with people these days?
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Originally Posted by Taz
I think it is terrible that that girl got expelled.
In most any college you sign a binding contract to live in the dorms, and most colleges have a Zero Tolerance policy on Drug and Alcohols. She broke the rules multiple times and paid the price.
If you paid $10K to go to school and then flunked out of school is the school going to refund your $ because you weren't responsible enough to study hard? Nope.
Personally this idea that doing drugs and illegally consuming alcohol is just "part of the college experience" disgusts me. You don't go to college to party and if you do then you're there for all the wrong reasons.
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Re: What's with people these days?
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Originally Posted by Taz
I can understand being upset about living with a clepto, but other than that, i don't understand what the big deal is. there is obviously no judgement to be made about what someone chooses to do for their amusement - like smoking pot. I think it is terrible that that girl got expelled. I think your degree should not be jeopardized for any reason other than academic unless you are a detriment to those around you.
That girl has every right to sleep with 6 different guys a day, smoke as much weed as she can afford, and still be a member of an academic establishment so long as her marks are at par.
The stealing could have absolutely been dealt with in a manner that would have probably changed the series of events that led to her expulsion. I know, because i lived in dorms and off campus while attending university, and like anyone else, had ppl eat my food, wear my clothes etc.
the social circumstances offered to you at a university are ones that you should learn to deal with effectively for your own good. just like it is socially awkward to steal someone's pudding cup, it is just as socially awkward to not be able to address that instance effectively. I mean if ur fiance put a lock on her door, talked to her roommate in a very serious way - outlined their expectations for and from one another, etc. then i am sure their would have been no expulsion.
I say this because there is more to someone than what they have been up to lately. If i got kicked out of school for smoking weed, who knows if i would be where i am today - i have done things im not proud of, and things i would take back - we all have. imagine if you got fired/expelled/evicted, because ur neighbor or coworker decided to judge you on the mistake you made most recently, and you were prosecuted to the full extent of the law/rule.
just a thought.
Wow where to start...
1- ok first off there are all sorts of opinions left and right about smoking pot and I won't get into that debate. However, it IS ILLEGAL and when you live in college dorms you sign a statement saying you understand the personal conduct/drug/alcohol policy and agree to follow it. The big deal is she violated that, lied to police and stole. Also when you live with a roomate are just some things you don't do. Yes she has a right to sleep with whoever she wants but she also has to respect the fact that someone else lives there and it likely is a single room setup which I'm sure it was.
2- Not everyone is so blase about roomates that steal food, take clothes without asking etc... You do what his fiance did, you confront the problem since it obviously didn't work then take it to the next level which didn't work so then you go to the RA which she did. If this girl had any sort of respect at all then she would have stopped doing what she was doing but she didn't so she got what she had coming.
3- If they had separate rooms then half of this wouldn't be an issue. Common sense dictates that they had a single dorm room which every single freshman dorm I've ever seen was set up as. Unless someone pays for an upgrade or you go to some ridiculous school then that's how it is.
4-Yes there is more to someone then what they've been up to lately, but this was an ongoing situation that his fiance tried to address and the girl would not correct it over a long period of time. It is March now, school starts in September, 6+ months is long enough for someone to straighten up. As far as your example...yeah if my neighbor was stealing from me I'd have him/her prosecuted to the full extent of the law in a second, I don't care how it was before that there are some things you don't mess around with. I know most people smoke weed in college and it isn't a big deal but people who get caught doing it are often kicked out and I do not feel sorry for them. A person signs a paper saying you won't smoke pot and you do it and then I'm suppossed to feel bad when they get kicked out? Welcome to real life where there are actual consequences for your actions. I know that in high school kids can get away with murder and do whatever they want but that's not how the rest of the world works. Some people find out the hard way.
I'm sorry, statements that people make like "just deal with it" really piss me off. If someone is stealing from you and creating a hostile atmosphere where you live then yeah you DO deal with it and I'm glad it got dealt with like it did.
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