Lemon pastel + Spider = Killer Bee?

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

OK but on this it says
Quote, NERD;

Mutation: Designer Combo
Pattern (Spider)
Color & pattern (Super Pastel)

Genetics
Dominant (Spider)
Co-dominant (Super Pastel) (homozygous)

what does that mean then?

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it means that it has a copy of the spider gene (from either parent) and two copies of the pastel gene (one must come from each parent- so both parents must have the pastel gene)
Sorry, it looked like several people seemed to accidentally correct you without reading what you had just said

you were correct that:
super pastel spider (killer bee) x pastel will make some killer bees
but also you can get some killer bees from
pastel spider (bumblebee) x pastel

OMG so confusing. What is the exact cross that I need to get a killer bee. In other words what are the two exact morphs that I need to make a killer bee. Sorry for my ignorance, I had like 5 tests today and only one period w/o a test. lol. 5 out of 6 periods were tests. AHHHHH!:P

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

OMG so confusing. What is the exact cross that I need to get a killer bee. In other words what are the two exact morphs that I need to make a killer bee. Sorry for my ignorance, I had like 5 tests today and only one period w/o a test. lol. 5 out of 6 periods were tests. AHHHHH!:P

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never mind lol :P

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

it means that it has a copy of the spider gene (from either parent) and two copies of the pastel gene (one must come from each parent- so both parents must have the pastel gene)
Sorry, it looked like several people seemed to accidentally correct you without reading what you had just said

you were correct that:
super pastel spider (killer bee) x pastel will make some killer bees
but also you can get some killer bees from
pastel spider (bumblebee) x pastel

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thank you that makes more sense. lol

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

I think (hope) the + was referring to the different genes in one snake, not the different parents
but yeah you're right...killer bees come from a bumblebee (pastel spider) bred to a pastel or super pastel
or of course another killer bee bred with a pastel/super pastel if you had that to work with hehe

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That "+" would be referring to 2 diff parents, not diff genes in 1 snake like you just said. If it was diff genes in 1 snake then super pastel + spider would mean killerbee, but I intended it as one parent being a super pastel and another being a spider which would produce half bumblebees. The other half will of course be pastels. I think you typed your response wrong by accident because you had it right in another post correct?

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

thank you that makes more sense. lol

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If anyone cares, I just drew up a bunch of punnet squares for funsies
Bumble Bee x Pastel will yield
1/8 Killer Bee
1/8 Super Pastel
1/8 Spider
2/8 Bumblebee
2/8 Pastel

Bumble Bee x Super Pastel
1/4 Killer Bee
1/4 Bumble Bee
1/4 Super Pastel
1/4 Pastel

Killer Bee x Pastel
1/4 Killer Bee
1/4 Bumble Bee
1/4 Super Pastel
1/4 Pastel
(same as Bumble Bee x Super Pastel)

Killer Bee x Super Pastel
1/2 Killer Bee
1/2 Super Pastel

Of course, the pastel or super pastel could be replaced with a Bumble bee/Killer Bee...but that messes up my punnet squares because of the silly unknown homozygous spider

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

I kind of like + referring to different traits in one snake and x referring to different parents in a cross
after reading other posts though, I guess that's not good format, since it seems to have lots of people confused

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I think this is a perfect distinction. x SHOULD mean what you get when you are crossing 2 parents together. And that leaves + free to be a list of genes present in one snake.

Unfortunately, not enough people will pay enough attention to what they type and what they read and you'll have people making typos, or thinking they are copying what they read somewhere else when they have actually used the wrong symbol... and pretty soon you have lots of people confused, as you said.

I still think this is a good system to use, but you might have to explain it in each post to make sure people are able to follow you.

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Originally Posted by Corrupter

That "+" would be referring to 2 diff parents, not diff genes in 1 snake like you just said. If it was diff genes in 1 snake then super pastel + spider would mean killerbee, but I intended it as one parent being a super pastel and another being a spider which would produce half bumblebees. The other half will of course be pastels. I think you typed your response wrong by accident because you had it right in another post correct?

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exactly...I was saying that I didn't think you needed to correct him, because I thought you had interpreted what he said incorrectly
now, that may be wrong, and without a doubt, the + was kind of ambiguous
he said super pastel + spider = killer bee
I was just saying that if the + is interpreted to mean that it's within the one snake, then that would be accurate
but if no one is sure what the + means...that might get you into trouble
it's not a big deal though, and I see how I was unclear in my post- Sorry!

Gotcha. Looks like we just misread each other's posts

I dont want to look like I am picking at you because thats not my intent, but I just wanted to add that you forgot the 1/8 Normals on your Bumble Bee X Pastel cross. I am REALLY OCD and it was bothering me. I apologize and I will shut up now :P