JnJ Reptiles

Thank you!

It would be our pleasure.

+1 for JnJ. I have bought both CB and WC snakes from Him and have had great experiences with them. I have had E-mail and some Long phone conversations with him and he has always taken the amount of time that was needed to satisfy my concerns and questions.

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Save me your BS Gary...You want to flip then flip...I never said J&J were "bad guys"...Kat ask a question and I gave my opinion...I said and I'll say it again...I buy from breeders not flippers...You want to name drop - Give me a break...You don't think I don't have racks full of animals from Brian - Don't act like Brian's operation is the norm...I just don't buy wholesale lots from Brian to flip...Why pay you extra coin when I could go straight to the cow...As common as BP morphs are and as many are available I ain't supporting a flipper...I don't care how honest some "broker" he is still a broker...You don't like my opinion tuff [turkey]...
BT

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Name drop? you were asked twice. You said brokers do not have quality animals. Or as good of quality as a breeder. You were asked about 8Ball and I brought up Brianselling their animals and people reselling them.

Not all people that breed want to do the selling end of the hobby they breed sell to a business and that is that. ALOT of people do this. But does that make their animals bad or worse then say a larger breeders animals? NO.

I am sorry you feel the need to attack. I gave my opinion just as you have given yours.

Next time one of my customers bring me a clutch I will say sorry BT said it is bad to broker you will just have to keep them. Maybe that will work for them.

My point was no need to name call over something. I do not buy from people that sell Voids. My choice. I think that is a little different then this but then as somethings simular.

There is a guy in Michigan. He breeds and produces over 1200 colubrids. Mainly corns and Kings. He does not like the show or the selling part of the hobby. Sometimes I can see why. But he trades the babies off to get other breeders he likes. Nothing wrong with the people that received them animals to sell them.

I see this as a way to put down a company just becuase they resell.

Oh and Name dropping. I only brought up people you would know. lol. Sorry I upset you.


JNJ

Great post.........

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

I'm with BT on this one... Its a personal decison who you buy from and he has good reasoning why he chooses not to buy from people who flip. I agree that there are so many other breeders out there who have quality animals for sale so why mess with a middle man? I dont have anything against people who flip... J&J may be great people with great animals for sale (coming from BHB) but its your personal decision who your money goes to....

For example I think its wrong to stuff a snake every week just to get it to breeding weight in a yr or 2... for that reason I wont purchase from anyone who openly states that they breed their snakes young (females are my main concern)... Doesnt mean they dont have quality animals or arnt great people I just personally disagree with their care/breeding methods so I'm not going to support their projects... Its the same situation with BT and flippers.

If your cool with flippers and cool with people who stuff their snakes so they can breed early then buy from em but dont hate the people who choose not to for good reasons.

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Not hating on him. He can choose to buy from who ever he likes. But comments like

Brokers do not have quality animals and ect.....

That is wrong and attacking. Not buying from them cool. Who cares. But attacking someone for something that is not hurting anything is not cool IMO.

Quality is Quality. Attitude is Attitude.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

BT / KAT

Where do I start....

Our banner: we carry a large variety of the highest quality c.b animals, from boas, to balls, carpets, and colubrids. To be honest we buy from some of the best breeders around so can offer the best quality animals. We do sell c.h specials, and odd ball imports, and they have become a big part of our business, as we have one of the best varieties of specials around.

95% of our animals come from 1 breeder/supplier, and he is one of the best in the county. The animals he doesn't produce, he buys from other breeders, such as Brian. Flippers, do not suck, there are some less than honest people who resell animals, but that is why you do your research. Just like there are plenty of less than honest breeders.
When my animals come from Ian G, I know I am getting the BEST quality around, at the best price.

As for paying more from us, I doubt you will find prices much better than ours, we buy $10,000 - $20,000 worth of animals per order, when you buy that kind of order prices are a lot better than 1 animal from a breeder. You can buy 1 corn snake for $25 from a breeder, or I can buy 100 from the same breeder for $8, and sell it for a better price than they would.

This year we have balls and boas breeding, we have 3 clutches of ball eggs from a bumble bee bee or new line cinny male (used them both) and 3 more on the way. We have a albino x calico boa litter due around May 14-20 too.

So when my clients produce a clutch of butters from a male they bought from a private breeder, and dont want to deal with selling them out 1 at a time, and we buy them all, the quality doesn't drop, it is the same snake just at a better price, and we have more time to put into them as we do this full time.

Say what you want but know what you are talking about first.

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One of these days I'll buy from you. :)

Easy Now, I respect BT's opinion, but we are not voicing the same concerns here. My point was simply that around half of what I've seen posted from you guys has been CH or import.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=575167

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579027

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579043

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=586008

I'm not trying to put you or your business down, I've heard nothing but good things about your customer service. However, to me, if such a large chunk of your market is not CB, it just doesn't click to represent it as being your specialty. I'm a live and let live kind of girl and I have no issues with how you choose to run your business, (the fact that you are still in business says volumes about you in a good way). I just think your subtext is a bit misleading, hence my reluctance to deal with you in the past.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Cheers,
Kat

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

Easy Now, I respect BT's opinion, but we are not voicing the same concerns here. My point was simply that around half of what I've seen posted from you guys has been CH or import.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=575167

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579027

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=579043

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=586008

I'm not trying to put you or your business down, I've heard nothing but good things about your customer service. However, to me, if such a large chunk of your market is not CB, it just doesn't click to represent it as being your specialty. I'm a live and let live kind of girl and I have no issues with how you choose to run your business, (the fact that you are still in business says volumes about you in a good way). I just think your subtext is a bit misleading, hence my reluctance to deal with you in the past.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Cheers,
Kat

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I see where you are coming from, up until the last 6 months or so we did 99% c.b. (Other than c.h in the spring and the w.c yellow belly here or there)

In the last 6 months we have been able to get some really unique c.h and imported special animals along with new lines of existing morphs. We have not changed our logo yet as the c.h specialties have just started taking off the last few months. Before that we did sell almost exclusively c.b.

The way the market is changing we are selling odd balls 10 to 1 over c.b, so maybe a logo change will be in order shortly. Maybe :
J&J REPTILES
Specializing in high quality c.b and unique imported reptiles. ????

Thanks

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

J&J REPTILES
Specializing in high quality c.b and unique imported reptiles.

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I actually think that has a nice ring to it.:D:gj:

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actually think that has a nice ring to it.

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Ditto. and I appreciate you taking the time and being open to discuss these concerns. It says a lot for your character.

Cheers,
Kat

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Originally Posted by janeothejungle

Ditto. and I appreciate you taking the time and being open to discuss these concerns. It says a lot for your character.

Cheers,
Kat

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Not a problem, we prefer to be open about our business, if we can help 1 person be successful by explaining what has/hasn't worked for us, then our job is done.