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  • 12-10-2007, 11:21 PM
    jdmls88
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    this is how to assist feed:D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    Ok i know this sounds weird and all but it worked for me. try this. its not force feeding is semi force feeding.(ONLY DO THIS IF YOU ARE FEEDING WITH F/T) just open up the bps mouth a little, and use the mouse to open it up more. put the head of the mouse in the snakes mouth. don't shove it down the throat. just put it half way into his mouth. when i did this with my albino she got the idea and decided to constrict it. i guess she tasted the blood or something. it worked on her but not on my adult male who is being a pain in the ass too and not eating.

  • 12-10-2007, 11:29 PM
    giaach
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Here is an answer to each of your questions:
    What type of enclosure do you use? 10 gal glass aquarium
    How big is your enclosure? standard 10 gal
    Is your enclosure in a low traffic area? yes, my bedroom, no one is around to make loud noises, bumps, thuds, ect
    What are your temps (cool & warm side)? cool ambient 77-80, warm side 90-93
    What is your humidity? 55-65%
    What type of thermometer/hygrometer do you use (dial,stick,or digital)? Flukers digital
    What kind of hides do you provide (log, homemade, cubbyholes etc) and how many do you have? identical rock caves.
    Are your hides tight (all side touching your BP's body) and identical? while not super tight, she likes to curl up against the back corner
    How often do you offer food? once every 5-7 days
    How often do you handle your BP? maybe once every other day
    Has you BP had any health problem? no problems in the past
  • 12-10-2007, 11:35 PM
    2kdime
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Raise your cool side temps to nothing below 80. 82 to 84 seem to be the magic numbers. Also the AMBIENT temps inside the 10 gal should be around that too.
    Warm side is ok. Maybe 1 degree low for my liking. Especially because your probably measuring temps under the substrate. And the heat has to be able to pass through whatever your using.

    Try handling a little less often. Just for now. Till regular feeding resumes. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck!!
  • 12-10-2007, 11:39 PM
    giaach
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Raise your cool side temps to nothing below 80. 82 to 84 seem to be the magic numbers. Also the AMBIENT temps inside the 10 gal should be around that too.
    Warm side is ok. Maybe 1 degree low for my liking. Especially because your probably measuring temps under the substrate. And the heat has to be able to pass through whatever your using.

    Try handling a little less often. Just for now. Till regular feeding resumes. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck!!

    Alright I'll try and get those ambient temps up. Im using a 50w red bulb and a UTH. The bulb is right in the middle and both are hooked into a thermostat. How could I increase the ambient heat without making the warm side too hot. ( The UTH plus the red bulb, make the warm side hot very quickly)
  • 12-10-2007, 11:50 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Before assisting feeding here is what I would recommend

    Move your BP in a 6 quarts tub (while some BP do great in glass tank some are more shy than other)

    Provide very tight hides at this point 6 inches flowerpot dish will work great.

    Bump the temp on the cool side (80-84)

    Once all set in a new enclosure do not handle your BP for a week and offer food.

    Even if you were successful after this I would recommend you handle your BP less often, every other day for such a small BP is a lot especially if you have a shy individual.
  • 12-11-2007, 12:11 AM
    2kdime
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by giaach View Post
    Alright I'll try and get those ambient temps up. Im using a 50w red bulb and a UTH. The bulb is right in the middle and both are hooked into a thermostat. How could I increase the ambient heat without making the warm side too hot. ( The UTH plus the red bulb, make the warm side hot very quickly)

    What kind of thermostats are you using? How many? Like both on the same one? Or one thermostat for each one?
  • 12-11-2007, 12:24 AM
    Monty
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    im going though the same thing its about patience which is what im learning im going this is week 6 or the 7 weeks ive had him
  • 12-11-2007, 12:42 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons View Post
    Before assisting feeding here is what I would recommend

    Move your BP in a 6 quarts tub (while some BP do great in glass tank some are more shy than other)

    Provide very tight hides at this point 6 inches flowerpot dish will work great.

    Bump the temp on the cool side (80-84)

    Once all set in a new enclosure do not handle your BP for a week and offer food.

    Even if you were successful after this I would recommend you handle your BP less often, every other day for such a small BP is a lot especially if you have a shy individual.

    I agree 100%. Security is a BP's #1 concern and larger or glass enclosures stress many BP's and cause them to go off feed. If you don't go to a smaller tub (which is what I reccommend) I would fill the enclosure with crumpled newspaper so she can hide in her hide without any view of her and leave her for a week. This will make her feel more secure. BP's are most vulnerable when feeding and if they feel vulnerable already they wont eat.

    Also try rat pups instead of mice, some BP's may prefer one over the other.
  • 12-11-2007, 12:50 AM
    dr del
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons View Post
    Once all set in a new enclosure do not handle your BP for a week and offer food.

    Even if you were successful after this I would recommend you handle your BP less often, every other day for such a small BP is a lot especially if you have a shy individual.

    Hi,

    Just thought it was worth highlighting this bit as it's the one everyone seems to forget or ignore.:rolleyes:


    dr del
  • 12-11-2007, 12:53 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: this snake is pissing me off...
    Assist feeding is a great way to get a young BP eating but after you have tried a few husbandry and feeding adjustments and the animal is visibly loosing weight. Force feeding has a high chance of regurg but with assist feeding the snake swallows it down on it's own.Y ou want to wet a prekilled hopper, gently open the snakes mouth with the head of mouse and put the head of mouse in past it's ears. Genlty put the snake back in it tub(I do it right in the tub) and let it swallow it on it's own. This usually kicks in the feeding response. i keep my hatchlings in real small hatchling tubs until they are well past 100 grams and they all eat good.
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