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Mouse in labor!

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  • 06-24-2016, 07:47 AM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
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    Originally Posted by piedlover79 View Post
    I'm sorry to hear your one momma didn't make it, congrats on the other pups!

    I had a *gigantic* female mouse die before going into labor, I did a necropsy and there were 17 fetal mice inside 5 of which were ectopic (outside the uterus) which explained the death. Some very odd things can happen during breeding.

    That's so interesting and sad! I will miss her, but it just left me space to hold back another female. If the litter allows, I'll be culling all but 3 females.
  • 06-24-2016, 08:52 AM
    piedlover79
    It was sad, but at the same time I had to marvel at the sheer number of little ones in there!

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    It was sad, but at the same time I had to marvel at the sheer number of little ones in there!
  • 06-27-2016, 12:36 AM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
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    Originally Posted by piedlover79 View Post
    It was sad, but at the same time I had to marvel at the sheer number of little ones in there!

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    It was sad, but at the same time I had to marvel at the sheer number of little ones in there!

    💕 looks like I'll be holding back 2 males and 3 females. As far as temperament, males that grow up together won't usually fight, right?
  • 06-27-2016, 01:20 AM
    Caspian
    Some people say no, but my experience says yes - and that if the can smell a female they'll absolutely fight. If one is removed and put with a female, it can't be put back with the others. I've heard on here that the same is true for rats - I've never had that happen with rats. I was going to separate my male rats, just in case, but they don't do well by themselves so I put them back together and they were delighted to see each other again. Male mice, however, just from personal experience, will kill each other even if they're raised together, if any of them are taken out and put back in, or if there are female mice around, particularly if they are in heat.
  • 06-27-2016, 11:32 AM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
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    Originally Posted by Caspian View Post
    Some people say no, but my experience says yes - and that if the can smell a female they'll absolutely fight. If one is removed and put with a female, it can't be put back with the others. I've heard on here that the same is true for rats - I've never had that happen with rats. I was going to separate my male rats, just in case, but they don't do well by themselves so I put them back together and they were delighted to see each other again. Male mice, however, just from personal experience, will kill each other even if they're raised together, if any of them are taken out and put back in, or if there are female mice around, particularly if they are in heat.

    Thank you :)
  • 06-27-2016, 04:29 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Caspian View Post
    Some people say no, but my experience says yes - and that if the can smell a female they'll absolutely fight. If one is removed and put with a female, it can't be put back with the others. I've heard on here that the same is true for rats - I've never had that happen with rats. I was going to separate my male rats, just in case, but they don't do well by themselves so I put them back together and they were delighted to see each other again. Male mice, however, just from personal experience, will kill each other even if they're raised together, if any of them are taken out and put back in, or if there are female mice around, particularly if they are in heat.

    Look who I almost missed. She is very swollen today. Wasn't 2 days ago... http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9ef5bcf5c1.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4afe68e5dd.jpg
  • 06-27-2016, 07:52 PM
    Caspian
    Chubby girl! I have a rat that's about to pop, and who's looking like that right now. Siamese girl, bred to a Black Berkshire. I'm always fascinated to see what comes out... next pairing due is a Blue Berkshire girl to a Siamese boy.
  • 06-27-2016, 08:03 PM
    CloudtheBoa
    Re: Mouse in labor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SCWood View Post
    💕 looks like I'll be holding back 2 males and 3 females. As far as temperament, males that grow up together won't usually fight, right?

    In my breeding group the males are the most docile. I can put a group of baby males in with their father immediately with no fighting from the get-go, they go straight to sleeping with each other until I cull them off (based off 2 litters so far). I put the group of females in with a holdback girl from the first litter and she immediately started fighting everyone, but they're getting along now. The breeder girls I have start out antagonizing the male for several days until they get used to his presence, and he barely fights back. I haven't tried putting multiple males together with a female in the mix, but all three groups are right next to each other, and the females' scents don't seem to instigate anything.

    Sorry to hear your girl died, hopefully the babies continue doing well! I lost over 20 pinkies in my most recent batch of litters, no clue why, most died within 2 days of being born and another couple died at the fuzzy stage but I didn't lose any more once they opened their eyes. :( Still have 6 healthy weaned mice, though.
  • 06-28-2016, 03:31 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Caspian View Post
    Chubby girl! I have a rat that's about to pop, and who's looking like that right now. Siamese girl, bred to a Black Berkshire. I'm always fascinated to see what comes out... next pairing due is a Blue Berkshire girl to a Siamese boy.

    I can't wait to breed. Right now, I'm waiting on a blue hooded and a black Berkshire set of males!
  • 06-28-2016, 03:32 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Mouse in labor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    In my breeding group the males are the most docile. I can put a group of baby males in with their father immediately with no fighting from the get-go, they go straight to sleeping with each other until I cull them off (based off 2 litters so far). I put the group of females in with a holdback girl from the first litter and she immediately started fighting everyone, but they're getting along now. The breeder girls I have start out antagonizing the male for several days until they get used to his presence, and he barely fights back. I haven't tried putting multiple males together with a female in the mix, but all three groups are right next to each other, and the females' scents don't seem to instigate anything.

    Sorry to hear your girl died, hopefully the babies continue doing well! I lost over 20 pinkies in my most recent batch of litters, no clue why, most died within 2 days of being born and another couple died at the fuzzy stage but I didn't lose any more once they opened their eyes. :( Still have 6 healthy weaned mice, though.

    That's so awesome!
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