Took Bo Outside..

I'm a little confused. On "Boa" forums and websites a hypo (obviously short for "hypomelanistic") refers to the lack or reduction of black skin pigment.

So because there is some black there at all it means its not a hypo?

Because I have a EBV Red Group(one of the first 2 bloodlines) Hypo Pastel BCI boa. He has some black on him and not just speckling.

I think coming from EBV it would undoubtably be correctly labeled in accordance with its breeding.

Whats abouts thats?


0.1.0 Normal Ball Python
0.1.0 Columbian B.C.I. 2013
1.0.0 EBV Red Group Pastel Hypo Jungle B.C.I. 2013

I can see how the bow tie saddles could have been misleading, but I also say too much black to be a hypo. Here's my girl to compare:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps5015f2eb.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psfd252cfd.jpg

He's cute in his smooshy-faced-ness though!

I'll need to keep an eye out for the vendor when we go to the expo: I don't recall remembering them last year or the year before.

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

I'm a little confused. On "Boa" forums and websites a hypo (obviously short for "hypomelanistic") refers to the lack or reduction of black skin pigment.

So because there is some black there at all it means its not a hypo?

Because I have a EBV Red Group(one of the first 2 bloodlines) Hypo Pastel BCI boa. He has some black on him and not just speckling.

I think coming from EBV it would undoubtably be correctly labeled in accordance with its breeding.

Whats abouts thats?

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Oh no, sorry that I wasn't more clear. I said speckling is fine. A certain amount of black is fine. Just that theirs clearly has too much. If you notice around the tail saddles it's very thick. Many many hypos have black and some have a lot. It's almost always "speckling" though. But that one has too much.

When you combine other morphs/locality it can add even more black that's for sure. Take hypo leopard boas for example. Tons of black, but when you look at it you still know it's a hypo

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

Hmmm maybe you should ask him if you go to the next Phoenix show?

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I might yea, but I mean its not an uber huge deal but I will probably bring it up because thats odd that he would sell something as one thing and it not be that

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Originally Posted by SnowShredder

Yes a very beautiful boa regardless. I'm hoping you didn't pay hypo price (which luckily isn't a huge amount more), because that's unfair to you as the customer. I don't see how he could mistake your boa for a hypo and sold it to you as such. It's one of the most common and easily identified morphs in the boa world

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I only payed 100$ for him :P I dont think thats too terrible, even if he isnt a hypo. What is he? Just a normal? He seems awfully light

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I can see how the bow tie saddles could have been misleading, but I also say too much black to be a hypo. Here's my girl to compare:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps5015f2eb.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psfd252cfd.jpg

He's cute in his smooshy-faced-ness though!

I'll need to keep an eye out for the vendor when we go to the expo: I don't recall remembering them last year or the year before.

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Yea the difference is clear even without looking at saddles, he does have quite a lot of black.. He was there the last 2 years, usually set up in the front on the far left .

Oh and I cannot wait until he is as big as your girl, then his head will be extra mooshable!She is gorgeous btw

I'll post a couple of my hypo next to my normal. Pictures at all at different ages
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psb55e0e65.jpg
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/DSC03479.jpg
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/DSC03327.jpg
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/DSC03320.jpg

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Originally Posted by pookie!

I might yea, but I mean its not an uber huge deal but I will probably bring it up because thats odd that he would sell something as one thing and it not be that



I only payed 100$ for him :P I dont think thats too terrible, even if he isnt a hypo. What is he? Just a normal? He seems awfully light

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I'm really not sure what he could be. He is very very light and gorgeous. Maybe someone with more boa experience will chime in. If he's just a normal, he is a top quality one!

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Originally Posted by SnowShredder

I'm really not sure what he could be. He is very very light and gorgeous. Maybe someone with more boa experience will chime in. If he's just a normal, he is a top quality one!

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Lol yea I dont want to sound like all the people with the dinkers, what is he is he special :rofl: but he just looks much nicer than a normal but idk either, I am not very savvy in boa stuff

But he looked more hypo when he was younger, yeah?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...24571766_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...61155753_n.jpg

Maybe he could be a pastel? I don't know much about the pastel Colombian morph though, just throwing it out there. If he's a normal he's super nice.

Here's my same girl when she was a little more wee, looking about the same size as your cute guy in his younger pics:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...1Jaidabody.jpg

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

Maybe he could be a pastel? I don't know much about the pastel Colombian morph though, just throwing it out there. If he's a normal he's super nice.

Here's my same girl when she was a little more wee, looking about the same size as your cute guy in his younger pics:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...1Jaidabody.jpg

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My first thought looking at him was some type of pastel, but didn't want to throw that out there because I was really unsure. I was thinking that because he's so light, and nice and clean. I don't know where the pinched saddles are coming from though. He's unlike any pastel I've seen

Here's a couple photos of a little pastel I had a while back.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps943584fc.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps75f07b61.jpg


And here is all 3 together

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0322edb6.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8270ef26.jpg