Lucy question

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

Yes you may be right there. I dont doubt it. Still, if even super lessers / super butters / lesser butters can have residual dorsal stripe, isnt it worth it to go for an alternative just to avoid producing blind BPs?

For pure white go for all-white pied. I think BEL white doesnt quite beat pied white. Lesser piebalds often are all-white snakes. I think apart from the commonly discussed pigments, ball pythons also have a white pigment, which fluoresces under UV light, and i think piebalds have a lot of it.

I would compare it to the ethics of breeding spiders, Blind snakes would be the equivalent of the train wreak spiders, not every snake is like that and it appears to be rare. Some just have bug eyes or a moderate wobble. Some are fine and have no eye problems or wobble. Saying use an alternative is pretty short sited as your just looking at the potential offspring from one generation. I want nothing to do with mojaves currently, as I see them as sub par to lesser/butter. I know many would disagree with me, but thats how I feel. I don't want anything to do with het russos either. The rest of the BEL complex will most likely not produce the snake I strive for. So I take the risk associated with the lesser x lesser and hope to produce one of the healthy BEL. Just as anyone breeding spiders hopes to produce a non-train wreak spiders. If I happen to produce a less than perfect animal, that is on me as a breeder.

problem seems to be we have a good gauge on how often degree of wobble will appear, its safe to say most spiders will not have a bad wobble, we dont seem to know how often bug eyes appear and Jerry is the only blind BELs I've heard of. Also it may not be so random appearing like the spider. One pair of lessers might produce blind and bug eye snakes often while another pair of lessers might always produce perfect BEL. Not saying thats how it is, just it is possible.

Pieds dont get you blue eyes though, though I agree their white is about as pure as it gets.

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EDIT: and i think the BEL complex is good at stripping pigments and leaving the white pigment, but maybe doesnt add to the white pigment?

I would agree

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Originally Posted by sharkrocket

So my major question is, are the bug eyes just a phenotype thing, or can they pass on their bug eyes to offspring?

If you have a bug eyed super lesser and breed it to a perfectly healthy normal, will its offspring have bug eyes?

Bug eyes, if it appears, is only in the BEL, not the lesser offspring.

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