phantom vs mojave

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Originally Posted by Kurtilein

i admit im basically just throwing this out there for you to shred apart, and its based on just my own online research ^^ . But then, the black potion exists. My only gamble is that i say, for example, that super mahogany (suma) bred to mojave will produce 50% black potion and 50% mahogany.

Thats how you test hypotheses: you make a prediction, and then you succeed or have egg on your face. I think im right.

Best Regards :)

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Originally Posted by Kurtilein

its not really known and not really proven out. And im really noone, im just learning ball python genetics before i get my first ball python, i just noticed this and then i searched the internet for possible combinations. And i noticed two things, firstly that mahogany single-gene ball pythons really tend to look like the noble wood they are named after, and secondly that it just goes crazy combined with any other gene from the blue eye leucystic gene complex.

the other more common darkening genes do this with pastell. and make the pewters. Not this one.

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No worries! I think having speculations is what keeps the bp going strong. My only issue was that it seemed like you were stating it as a fact, rather than speculation.

You seem to have a good base for your hypothesis, so you never know. But I might suggest you mention that it is infact, your opinion, rather than proven genetically.

If you breed a black potion to a normal and it cannot reproduce itself (think vanilla cream) then you have an allelic mutation. (I think I used that term correctly)

Anyways, I was not trying to rag on you or anything, just thought you had new information I hadn't seen yet. Wouldn't be the first time :)

I did find a post that copper and cinnamon have been proven not to be alleles by a breeder in Germany but I can't seem to find the link again. In this link it's implied in that apparently a cinnamon copper X lavender produced a cinnamon copper:

http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...-The-dark-side

There is some indication that copper and mahogany might be the same.

I'm hoping for eggs from this Garcia line chocolate cinnamon mojave girl this year and expect that none of those three will be alleles. Breeding her to a super chocolate male so guess any just chocolate babies would prove no alleles.

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201204...onmojave02.jpg