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Black Pastel vs. Cinnamon

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  • 11-15-2011, 12:45 AM
    snakesRkewl
  • 11-15-2011, 12:49 AM
    Ezekiel285
    Re: Black Pastel vs. Cinnamon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post

    :O
    That is an awesome looking BP!! :gj:
  • 11-15-2011, 01:39 AM
    Crawly's Mom
    I love cinnies. It was the first morph I really started playing with in the genetic wizard after a spider. I cannot wait to have some. :)
  • 11-15-2011, 02:56 AM
    TessadasExotics
    Make it a Liesen line Black Pastel!
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/100_1180.jpg
  • 11-15-2011, 03:05 AM
    heathers*bps
    Re: Black Pastel vs. Cinnamon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Make it a Liesen line Black Pastel!
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/100_1180.jpg

    That is a smoking black pastel :O
  • 11-15-2011, 03:34 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    I prefer cinnys. A good quality cinny should look nothing like a black pastel or a normal. A low quality black pastel however, can look like a normal.

    When choosing a cinny you should be picky. The kinking issue with supers also seems to run in certain blood lines which is why I purchased my original pair from a line that didn't show these issues like others did and looked nothing like black pastels. Nor did they ever produce bad looking cinnys.

    It's really all in the lines. With certain morphs it pays to know where they originated from and you will get what you pay for.

    I will always stick up for cinnys knowing these facts and I hate that there are so many mediocre examples out there that are ruining it for them :(
  • 11-15-2011, 04:21 AM
    Ch^10
    Ian G Black Pastel Het Pied for me!

    http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...i/P1000729.jpg
  • 11-15-2011, 10:06 AM
    MrBig
    I had a stunning cinni male and I traded him and picked up a Black Pewter female. I love the BP combos, especially with YB. Liesen and Tom Barnhart make some amazing combos. I would love to get into the leisen trick, but outta my price range for now.
  • 11-15-2011, 10:35 AM
    Jyson
    Re: Black Pastel vs. Cinnamon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    I prefer cinnys. A good quality cinny should look nothing like a black pastel or a normal. A low quality black pastel however, can look like a normal.

    When choosing a cinny you should be picky. The kinking issue with supers also seems to run in certain blood lines which is why I purchased my original pair from a line that didn't show these issues like others did and looked nothing like black pastels. Nor did they ever produce bad looking cinnys.

    It's really all in the lines. With certain morphs it pays to know where they originated from and you will get what you pay for.

    I will always stick up for cinnys knowing these facts and I hate that there are so many mediocre examples out there that are ruining it for them :(

    Very true, but low quality cinnies can look like normals too. It's all about the quality of the animal. I think the lines are important with both black pastels and cinnies since they vary so much.

    My favorite black pastel line is the Gulf Coast Reptiles line, I produced some this year. Hands down the best IMHO.
    http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...os/8-8-113.jpg
    http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/11-7-111.jpg
  • 11-15-2011, 12:58 PM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    Re: Black Pastel vs. Cinnamon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    They only look alike when you see poor examples of either morph, otherwise a good cinny and a good black pastel are quite different looking imo.

    They might be similar but you won't make a black pastel with a cinny and you won't make a cinny with a black pastel.

    I believe that butters and lessers work the same way.

    ^THIS^

    I think both have their place, just like lessers/butters. I really like both, I chose a black pastel female because she was exactly what I was looking for in that specific morph. A good black pastel will have a a lot of squiggles in their alien heads, unlike cinnamons (or at least that's what I call them). They combos they pull off are out of this world, black albino, black pastel yellow bellies, black pastel ghosts, all of which are some of my favorite morphs. One day I hope to find a perfect black back cinny, they are way too good looking for words.
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