1st breeding attempt

Tanks w/UTH and lights if needed;)

I've got a whole room dedicated on the first floor of my house for only qts. No room temp house is ever going to be warm enough without extra heat. So I use tubs and uth's and thermos for any balls that are in qt. Easy clean easy to heat. My qt room doesn't have any other herps in it so it doesn't stay as warm as the other rooms. It's probably around 65 we try and keep our heat down bc oil is outrageous. But that just means all have 24 hr heat. Hence why I like uth's and heat cord.

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

IBD is not just spread by mites…It’s a communicable disease that can be spread a lot of different ways…Breeding being one of them…Pythons cannot live very long with IBD.

You also need to quarantine to make sure there is no RI, which could also spread to your whole collection.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=220629

It could be very stressful shuffling your male around and he may not breed for you at all…IMO it's not worth the risk to the animal(s).

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Wow that is scary. I never new such a bad RI existed. I don't have a separate building for quarantine, only a different room. It makes me afraid to add anything to my collection:O

You'll be okay as long as you follow the qt rules. Having a separate room is great. That's how I do it. I do my collection animals first and then go to the qt room. After that I sterilize my hands. If anyone has touched my clothes I change those too. Adding animals to the collection is a great thing. But it's important to remember that there's things that can truely hurt them if the careful qt measures arent taken.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

Read this... It'll make you think twice about qt.
http://www.anapsid.org/deanne.html

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I have a new collection and this almost made my heart stop. This should really be stickied if it isn't already.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

Read this... It'll make you think twice about qt.
http://www.anapsid.org/deanne.html

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I cried just readind this....


Hope you have better luck with your 22 balls with out QT.... :colbert:

I honestly think that if you aren't sure of proper QT procedures, or even how diseases travel between animals, you really should back up and make sure you have these things down cold before you begin breeding. Proper knowledge of the animal is a must when raising youngsters. What if you have a hatchling that won't feed? What if you have a youngster get RI and you don't know how it gets passed around? What if the dreaded IBD makes its way into your collection, and not only does it wipe out your 22 ball pythons but also the babies you've produced? You're taking a huge risk by doing this the way you are. A minimum of 30 days quarantine should be practiced at least, if not the 90 day quarantine that's truly recommended. Even 30 days would be better than nothing though.

I've got some animals loaned out to a friend for breeding projects, but I know her and know how she cares for her collection, or I wouldn't have even considered it. Did she quarantine my animals before breeding? Absolutely, and I am not the slightest bit offended. I would do the same for her or anyone else, despite the fact that I trust her. I have even flat out told my customers who are still relatively new to snakes to quarantine the ones they've bought from me before introducing to any others in their collection. Do I think I sold them an unhealthy animal? Absolutely not, but quaratine is always the best habit to practice, regardless of who the animal comes from. Would I quarantine aniamls from the little guy selling a few animals online? Yep. Would I quarantine animals from any of the big breeders? You betcha. Everything that comes in gets quarantined.

That is how you protect yourself, your animals and any potential buyers. One who doesnt practices qt and sells animals could wipe out others' collections as well. Just from emotional and financial damages you could have serious lawsuits. Plus the fact one could literally loose everything. It's a safety measure to protect your animals and the community. If you do plan on breeding this is something that you already should have been practicing. If you haven't it's smart and necessary to start now. Dealing with exotics comes exotic viruses and disease and having a large collection means alot of ways these can be transferred. Not only is qt extremely important but it's the sign of a good and serious breeder that cares for their collection and had respect for the rest of the community. It's important to keep up and research diseases that can potentially cause alot of damage as well as the medical issues that may not. An educated breeder is a good breeder.

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Originally Posted by SnakeGirl3

I honestly think that if you aren't sure of proper QT procedures, or even how diseases travel between animals, you really should back up and make sure you have these things down cold before you begin breeding. Proper knowledge of the animal is a must when raising youngsters. What if you have a hatchling that won't feed? What if you have a youngster get RI and you don't know how it gets passed around? What if the dreaded IBD makes its way into your collection, and not only does it wipe out your 22 ball pythons but also the babies you've produced?

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This is my thought exactly.

You seem to be lacking alot of simple knowledge that anyone breeding snakes should already undserstand. Some of the questions you have asked should be considered common sense once you begin the breeding process. I'm not trying to deter you in anyway (this is my first season too), but I have read tons of websites and books and feel I am ready for just about anything thrown at me. I would suggest doing a little more research :gj:.

now iv already read a lot and done my research my questions aren't because i don't know what "some" people say i want to know what ppl on here think, iv already had young ball pythons that wouldn't eat and iv had mites and iv seen ri and this isn't my 1st year owning a ball python. im sorry you think im not supposed to be breeding or owning these snakes but i do know more than your make me out to be, so though i asked a question don't treat me like i don't know anything. no afence but everyone will always have more to learn and even the big breeds learn new things all the time. im on this forum for knowledge not because i don't know enough to have a "pet" snake. so though there was a question you should jump to conclusions to how much someone might know