1st breeding attempt

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Apparently you have 22 BP and what amazes me is that you are willing to jeopardize every single one of them by not practicing any quarantine procedure

Not sure if you are serious about breeding not sure practice your plans are in the future but proper quarantine practice must be learned and used for the sake or your collection and if you want to be taken seriously.

I have a female on a loan right now and I can tell you that for 3 months she was in quarantine before being moved to my snake room.

Is it I do not trust the person? No this person is a dear friend and I trust her however this is just how I roll no snake come near my collection before at least 90 days.

Does it offend the person who has her female on a loan with me? I don't think so it's proper practice and I know she would do the same if things were reversed and I would not expect any less.

Learn now before you end up learning the hard way

[Steveoo]

I think with the constant moving of your male, to different tubs, with different temp, he has to be a real stud to get both females gravid.

are you saying he wont lock, or he'll lock and not have anything happen?
because he has had no prob locking

[PitOnTheProwl]

are you saying he wont lock, or he'll lock and not have anything happen?
because he has had no prob locking

More of a health issue to the rest of your snakes than anything.

[Steveoo]

ok i understand the proper resting is needed for the snakes, and i can understand keeping them sepraret but i don't have the place to keep a snake other than the one room, and what types of things are you preventing by keeping them away for 90 days?
im not trying to be a smart or anything just trying to learn why you do the things you do

[Homegrownscales]

Super huge bad things like IBD which could kill an entire ball collection in a matter of months. As well as Mites which sucks to get rid if if they get into your collection. Getting things in could be as easy as touching one snake and then touching another wo washing hands. Things like that require careful qt

[Steveoo]

ibd can only be spread by mites and i alway use P.A.M on the enclosure before bring a new snake into the room, or when i get them back. so ok one snake gets ibd i try to always wash my hand between animals anyway so again tell me the reasoning for quarantine
and if an animal has ibd dose it always show in 90 days or less or could it be "sleeping" on the animal for a year or so?

[coldbloodaddict]

IBD is not just spread by mites…It’s a communicable disease that can be spread a lot of different ways…Breeding being one of them…Pythons cannot live very long with IBD.

You also need to quarantine to make sure there is no RI, which could also spread to your whole collection.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=220629

It could be very stressful shuffling your male around and he may not breed for you at all…IMO it's not worth the risk to the animal(s).

[Homegrownscales]

IBD doesn't sleep in balls like in can in boas. As well as there are many ways it can spread mites included. A whole ball collection would be dead in a matter of a couple months. I think IMHO that no animal is worth dying over being impatient. Qt is important I learned that myself when I first started keeping different herps. And it really sucks to learn the hard way. Parasites is also spread in possible breeding conditions. Males will scent and sometimes pee or defecate in the presence of a female and let's not forget they poop whenever they want. Boom potential parasite infestation if a new animal gives your male parasites and you not being careful give it to the rest of your collection. You could have a lot of $ in vet bills and potential loss of animals. Do you think your 22 balls want to go through that? Not everyone is aware or cares of the health issues these animals can potentially have. Protecting yourself is protecting your collection. It's not a bad thing or even pointless to qt. IMHO it's one of the most important things of having a strong healthy and successful colony. Even though you may get away with not qt-ing for now it will catch up with you eventually. Whatever disease gets in just might take everything with it.

[Homegrownscales]

Read this... It'll make you think twice about qt.
http://www.anapsid.org/deanne.html

[Steveoo]

ok so than how or where do you keep your bps when in quarantine? theres only one room in my house that stay about 65 all year around, and keeping a ball python in those temps it just asking for ri or death?
so my question is how would i go about keeping a bp in one of those rooms? make a small rack with heat tape on every side?
how do you guys keep your quarantined bps?