Female pastel questions

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Originally Posted by LOSTCOAST_BALLZ

I totally agree. and Im not trying to bad mouth him at all he gave me an amazing deal and I have spread the word about him and his company. SEE YA TO ANSWER YOUR POST DIRECTLY AND WHICH STIRS MY CONCERN is the simple fact that he described my snake as a pssible 66% het green ghost pastel. does that make sense at all? my understanding is that hypo and het are competley different. . . and that description wouldnt make sense. and how do u know i sent him a BUNCH OF EMAILS!!! Lol?

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I just read the other thread, and that pastel male of yours is a stunner. I can see how people can mistake it for a hypo pastel or super pastel. So it was sold to you as a pastel 66% het green ghost? This means that the parents were both 100% het for green ghost (they carry the hypo gene, but don't display the trait). All of the non green ghost babies would be labeled as 66% het, as there is no way of knowing for sure if they are carriers until they are bred. How much did you pay for it if you don't mind me asking?

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I really like the honeybees nut haven't really seen any for sale. Where could I find one?

Hi,

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Originally Posted by LOSTCOAST_BALLZ

awesome ya i plan on keeping them for sure now especially thanks to this thread... lol. but i am new with genetics. and would appreciate any in depth analyzes. i really like clowns an pies but dont know if thats strayin away from my goal i would like to create an impressive line if that makes sense dont kknow if clowns or pies would do that for me. . . i like the idea of ghost combos but RICH at ball boutique said he is onlyy a possible het ghot pastel but everyone who sees him says he is for sure a hypo ghost is RICH An idiot or what i dunno especailly since he doesnt wanna answer my questions hahaha.

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Best way to be sure is to wait till he sheds and look at the shed skin - if there is any trace of pattern on it he isn't a ghost but if it is totally clear then he is. :gj:

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Originally Posted by LOSTCOAST_BALLZ

I totally agree. and Im not trying to bad mouth him at all he gave me an amazing deal and I have spread the word about him and his company. SEE YA TO ANSWER YOUR POST DIRECTLY AND WHICH STIRS MY CONCERN is the simple fact that he described my snake as a pssible 66% het green ghost pastel. does that make sense at all? my understanding is that hypo and het are competley different. . . and that description wouldnt make sense. and how do u know i sent him a BUNCH OF EMAILS!!! Lol?

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Heterozygous and homozygous describe how many copies of the mutated gene the snake carries - het means it carries only one copy and homo means it carries two.

In recessive mutations (like ghost ) only an animal with two copies of the mutated gene will look visually different.

So a het ghost has half the genes needed to make a visual ghost ( also called hypo ) offspring.

66% het ghosts are produced from breeding two het ghost animals together and comes from the fact that a quarter of the offspring will be visual homozygous ghosts, half will be het ghosts and the remianing quarter will be normals. Since the het ghosts and normals cannot be seperated by looks then you have to say that (statistically ) 2/3 of them will be het ghosts and 1/3 will be normals. So each one gets described as 66% het ghost.

It's a bit confusing I know as each animal either has the gene or it hasn't but, until you breed them to find out, you have no way of knowing which you have. :rolleyes:

Either way the snake is a knockout. :)


dr del

Thank you i really appreciate it. Dr del, I honestly do appreciate you and the other people taking the time to explain all this to me. I don't mean to irritate anyone with my excessive questions.

I will check his shed, but also Im thinking of buying a male for my 2 pastel females, they are both normal pastels. therefor the ghost combos would have to be female if im notmistaken because i would have to have ghost to ghost correct?

Hi,

Yes, to get visual ghost offspring both parents would have to be at least het ghost.

But if you get a homozygous ghost female then you know at least that every offspring is a 100% het ghost. If you got a female het ghost then your offspring would be at best 66% (er.... I think - I always get confused at this point :oops: ).

But you could find it might be prefferable to buy another co-dom or dom morph that is het for ghost to double the bang for your buck if your pastel is either het or homo ghost. :gj:

Spider het ghost for example would be a great combination and should be quite affordable these days.

But then I might be biased as I really like both humblebees and bumblebees. ;)

Once you get a better idea of his genetics from the shed you should be able to plan with a bit more certainty.


dr del